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Messigician is literally a bot that Bartomeu commissioned to be created when he was doing the whole ''slander our own players through social media'' thing. I'm sure of it. Best thing to do is block him :)

If the Griezmann sale goes through it goes from good job to great job :worthy:

Yep, nobody should be kept here against their will. And he's not a huge loss for us either, never fit into the team properly and if we get rid of his wages and make some money on top of that - I'm more than happy personally.

His wages, for one. Extending an already existing contract you can only reduce the wages by a certain amount. It had to be a fresh start to allow for Messi's wages to be 50% lower, plus probably all the bonuses and stuff lower as well.

Right, you're the expert so the only possible scenarios are the 3 that you presented huh :lol: Again, he fully believed he would be able to sign Messi and said so. Messi himself said so too. Things out of their control prevented it from happening, it's as simple as that. You can judge someone...

Yeah, cause he didn't know that the CVC deal would come in, and he didn't have access to the actual financial reports that he later got through the audit. He didn't know just how difficult it would be to re-sign Messi. It was a combination of obstacles that came up over the summer, led by Tebas...

That's such a shallow, stupid way of looking at this though. ''He lost Messi so he's bad''. That's literally the stupidity of people that Bartomeu was counting on, and why he so desperately kept him at the club so he wouldn't lose him and the blame would go on the next president. Don't let his...

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wtf :lol:

:lol: Good one

Hellllllllllllllllllllllllllllllll nooooooo

Yeah see I'd rather keep him if that's the case.

I may be wrong idk, but I've seen it written here and in other places before that us re-signing him for such a low fee from Betis had a clause that they get a large percentage of his future sales.

Doesn't Betis get 50% of the transfer fee if we sell him? If the fee is 30 million, we'd only get 15. I don't think that's worth it tbh.

The quality of Ligue 1 really seems horrid tbh. The Reims defenders were literally kicking at Messi's legs at the end there, ridiculous.

Exactly why I don't rate him. Overrated af

I guess we'll see. But I think Ole will most certainly finish behind City, Chelsea, Liverpool and possibly even Tottenham. And in the CL I honestly see them struggling in their group and if they face a bigger team they won't have a chance. Don't rate them at all, 0 tactical gameplan.

I know Juve started the season horribly, but Ole has been at United for 3 years and they have not improved as a team whatsoever.

Sure, but Juventus has a way better manager. Sure, they're shit atm but Allegri will probably make them click. Ole has had what, 3 years already? And United still look like they have absolutely no gameplan and purely get results through lucky moments or individual brilliance.

I honestly disagree. United with Ole look like 11 headless chickens running around aimlessly.