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I never said it was the ref's fault - Dutch weren't good at all for most of the game, Koeman's decision making is questionable, and I agree with all you say. Just saying the ref definitely didn't help matters either.

To be fair though, the game was even in the second half, but based on the first half, England are deservedly through. Though I still think Netherlands were a bit better than them in the tournament before tonight. If Spain turn up though they should win.

Ref was shocking too. I am not gonna get into the penalty again but he penalised the Dutch for winning the ball and getting through on goal a couple of times. And just generally let snide fouls by England go. He's German so probably anti-Dutch :lol: Though they're not fond of England either lol.

Original prediction was 2-1 England, altered to 1-1. Why don't I just stick with original scores. I did last night and I was rewarded for it (2-1 Spain).

I just meant that Griezmann has been more important than Mbappe over the years, and now he's had a bad tournament, it showed in the French team - he's been great in most of his previous tournaments. Mbappe has been even worse than him this tournament though - Mbappe has been poor in both his...

Beautiful goal by Watkins to be fair, after England declined generally in the second half due to the Dutch reinforcing in midfield. I have always liked Watkins as a player. It was a great goal as I said. But ffs, please come on Spain.

Yeah once he goes to the monitor it is 99 percent being given. I agree it's studs up, but it still feels soft really. Maybe that is modern football though. To be fair I get annoyed when penalties get given for tiny handballs or slight brushes on players in the box when they have nowhere near a...

No surprise - assume it is for Trippier. He has been their weak link this half.

Grealish is a knob, but I agree he should be playing at this tournament. He had a bad season though and has been dropped because of form. But he offers something in tight spaces and playmaking that a lot of Ennglish players don't.

Think this is more of it; the rules are so unclear and ambiguous and it is made up as they go along. Some VAR teams call for a review and some don't on an incident like that. It's just pointless trying to understand what is a penalty and what isn't these days when the laws are so unclear and...

Wrist? Mate I like and respect you as a poster, but I can never agree that is a penalty in a million years. Just a difference of opinion. The contact is minimal and the ball is long gone. The expert female referee person on my feed said she was surprised that was given. She wasn't even...

That's a fucking shocking decision. I know I am anti-England but come on - Kane kicks him and Dumfries is simply trying to block a shot which is already gone anyway. Lucky cunts lol.

Yeah true I don't buy Saka at RWB either. I know he scored last game but that's not his position. I have locked 1-1 on Superbru now anyway. I can still change on uefa.com but unsure. By far the most popular pick is 1-1 so I might just play safe and stick with that. I am definitely confident...

Anyway, thoughts for tonight? I was leading my mini league in uefa.com - but as the tournament progresses there are bigger gambles. This round the booster is four times, and one of my rivals scored 40 points using his booster last night and overtook me. I will be using this booster tonight so...

I do like Fati even though he trolled a lot. He's a nice guy. Temp made some ok posts at times but he trolled (and in a more incendiary manner than Fati) all the time, and yeah, he had some what I would call odd football opinions. I have no problem with people having different opinions if they...

I think they will be one of the favourites, especially in North America as opposed to Europe, but it's still stiff competition, and he will be 39 during the tournament. Totally agree that players could emerge who make a difference to the national team - they weren't unknowns but look how Mac...

They have plenty of talented players. But PL hype leads to them thinking their players are superstars and other teams have inferior footballers ie hype and complacency. That and they've always been poor tactically and rely on moments in games rather than dominating with intelligent passing and...

I must say I don't understand this masturbating over Lewandowksi or Ronaldo for scoring each tournament. Fair enough Lewa is playing for Poland. But what kind of impact is a forward like him having if he scores one goal in each tournament. It's doing a little each time and makes zero difference...

The thing is, you don't want him to go on too long and taint his legacy, like certain other players. It would be amazing for him and Argentina if they successfully defend the World Cup. But what if he goes and is too old and Argentina struggle? People should remember him on top. It's a...

Yeah but I meant winning all three group games too.