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Oh and feel free to tell me who you think deserved the 22-23 Fans Player of the Year between Rashy, Erling and Kev. Was it, indeed, Rashy then?

Fair enough laddie - I admit I almost burst a blood vessel with some of your Lampard-like deflections and twisting my words into straw men. But overall it's been fun. Thanks for the laugh.

Well, for me, anyone who 'gambles' on Rashford is a fool and is wasting their money. I never even mentioned Raphinha, I don't rate him. Sure Rashford might be better than him but it's not gonna move the needle at all.

He's just not as good as you are willing him to be. It's really that simple. And if you ever (in this hypothetical scenario you brought up from nowhere which began this debate) bought Rashford, he would be a drain in wages and wouldn't be worth it on the park. It's a pointless debate though as...

And you still haven't answered my question if Rashford deserves 'Fans POTY' over Haaland and De Bruyne in 22-23. Bringing up the veracity of that award. I have a feeling you will never answer it to be honest.

He won't though. that is the point. It was a player playing well above his true level (in stats). That is abundantly obvious when you look at the rest of his career and his body of work. He's a stats player first and foremost. He has never broken 20 PL goals and in all likelihood never will...

Fair enough. I believe you are wrong, and his vast inconsistency and unprofessionalism over the years, as well as his and Man United's struggles and failure to ever get near competing for the PL and CL would appear to back me. Let's revisit this if Rashford is ever a top performer in a team...

Mate there's a thread on Redcafe from like 2017 with United fans saying Rashford is as good as Mbappe :lol: They have negative fans like every club, like there are on here. But if you read Redcafe and Red Issue you will also see a lot of top red fans who make excuses for all their players and...

It's a Scottish thing.

It depends who you talk to. Certain segments slaughter him - certain ones are his mouthpiece eg that imbecile Henry Winter. Ultimately a lot of people still see him as 'potential' - despite being 27 in a couple of months - and think he has far more ability than he does. These Man United fans...

Yeah that's maybe worded badly. Maybe fairer to say he was good (in stats) but hyped up as most Man United players are. Let's be honest, Rashford has been a media favourite since his debut. If he does something well it's gonna be blown out of all proportion.

Anyway sorry for the personal attacks Jammy Definitely no need for that. Was just getting frustrated with you refusing to acknowledge points and twisting what i was saying,

Do you think he deserved Fans POTY over haaland or de bruyne in 22-23? it's a simple yes or no answer. Stop evading the question. And if you say no, it blows apart the whole credibility of this award you are clinging to.

Another strawman - never said he was poor. He was good, to a point. His all-round game was mediocre as usual but he scored plenty of goals. But he wasn't good to the point he's a 100m player, as you claimed. Especially as that one season is surrounded by long-term poor performance by him...

Yeah those who are opposition fans. It;s mostly Man United fans who rate him as the POTY for 22-23. Certainly not city or Liverpool.

Answer the question. Was The 'Fans POTY' correct to award Rashford the award over Haaland or De Bruyne in 22-23? or could it be tribal United fans voting for their player out of bias? It shouldn't really be this hard to get a straight answer. You deflect more than anyone I have seen.

The fact two actual awards contradict each other - the official PFA and Fans PFA, won by two different people - should surely tell you that no award is an ultimate authority, no? Ultimately you're arguing in defence of an award that said Rashford was better than haaland in 22-23. You're...

They can be wrong though, are you disagreeing with that? Are you saying that award ceremonies never get it wrong in any realm? Why are you being so obtuse? Did Rashy deserve Fans POTY for the whole league over Haaland and De Bruyne in 22-23? Yes or no.

Yeah, getting pleasure when a club you hate struggles is a big part of being a football fan. Didn't you like it when Real Madrid struggled in the past?

Because they can be. The fact is you're saying he won Fans POTY for the whole league - the fact he's winning the award that season over the likes of Haaland and De Bruyne shows that it is worth fuck all, and more about who has the most fans. You're arguing for the veracity of an award that...