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He's an absolute tool, but I watched the second half live and that was a beautiful piece of skill. I still believe he's too rash and aggressive though, both in terms of how dirty he is (see the Palace stamp) and in anticipating the ball. Too often he comes out to try and win the ball in front of...

That's the sign of a natural talent - they make it look easy, natural, like they're not even trying. It's all so effortless. Compare that to Ronaldo or Haaland. Yes they get the job done but they look like they're trying too hard, everything looks an effort.

More chance of me travelling back in time and impregnating Monica Bellucci.

What a repugnant display of materialism and vanity that collage is, lol.

True, tap ins aren't as easy as they look as they sometimes require great movement and off the ball ability. However, at other times the movement is nothing special, just a crosser picking out a cut-back in the box. But yeah, this brings up the argument if poachers bring enough to the table...

Sorry, posted and voted in the previous thread before you added more options mate. I'd say for impact/ability/achievement combination, Messi, Cruyff, Xavi and Iniesta are top four. I'd add either Michael Laudrup, Rivaldo, Romario or Ronaldinho as number five. As Birdy says R9 wasn't there long...

Of those I went with Messi, Cruyff, Xavi, Iniesta, Ronaldinho. Michael Laudrup is one player who could have a shout over Ronnie.

It's probably partly that she likes the trappings of money and fame, but also that she has Stockholm Syndrome i.e. she believes he's 'not that bad' and has been gaslit into thinking he's ok and will change. Women are complex and always believe a man can change, and usually their self-esteem is...

Hi mate, and that is fine, no problem. There's no rush or pressure. I am back here now so feel free to message here whenever you want and I will check it.

He was probably predicting what would happen to him. Could feel his body falling apart on him.

I think five of those came in one game against Leipzig though. It's not even that he doesn't score - it's that the way he plays does not facilitate other players or make the team better. He just camps in the middle waiting for service, it's like playing with ten men. He isn't one of those...

Indeed. Those 'hurty words on an internet forum' spill over into the real world. Only the other day I learned a guy I know called a player a 'black bastard who needs a wash' and threw water in his face because he scored against his team at the 7 a side tournament we were at. I would never have...

Anyway, all this probably should be moved to Zidane thread as more relevant there @Barcaman

Aye I have saw that video before, was amazing to see even if Maradona was old and just a charity match. Yeah I know what you mean about Messi and Zizou. They likely would combine very well, especially as you say because Messi is a very smart player (and so was Zidane) and they'd know when to...

Greenwood's an absolute cunt of a guy but it's not because he's black. How it has become a race debate I am not sure.

Thanks for that link - I will look at it later. They're two of my favourite ever players so will be good to see them interacting. I know what you mean about them maybe being in each other's way if they played together - a lot of times people think you just throw the best players together like...

Yeah true, it was a little inconsistent then - teams seemed to dominate for a period and then be supplanted by a completely new team for a while. We saw that at times in the 80s as well - Serie A in the 80s might well be the strongest most competitive league ever, at least for a good number of...

Fair enough - really good points. Tbh I am quite deep into this 'with the internet era the top players have become concentrated in fewer teams' mantra so maybe I am undervaluing how often it happened even pre Messi and Ronaldo. I am always willing to admit I might be wrong. Fair point in Barca...

I know they were dominant and I made that point. Just saying that top teams at the time didn't lord it over the rest of the league quite as much as top teams do now. Tbh I am probably just making excuses for his lack of success at club level as I am such a fan of his as a player. No doubt...

The thing is - they don't have enough quality players to create a cohesive team that can go toe to toe with better squads without having a genius. So they need a superstar/match winner or two to as you say 'bail them out', as they won't dominate against better teams. I guess that's where...