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Precisely. Except it shouldn't have taken them by surprise as there's a pattern and clear obviousness of Portugal being better when he isn't playing. Mainly because the other players play free of pressure and the large shadow he casts, plus they have more than just a poacher waiting up front...

You're bantering but I genuinely believe France would have won that final had he not got injured. His record in finals is far from stellar after all and they played better when he went off.

Apparently it's my posts not adding up, when you are still saying that Olmo assures/guarantees beating big teams. NOONE SAID THAT, SO IT'S A STRAWMAN. Who said that? Did Barca say it? You keep making arguments noone has said. Nobody said that Gundogan is worse than Olmo, or that Olmo is a...

Fair enough, much of my point is about on the pitch stuff. Fernandes really runs around like a headless chicken though, his press isn't coordinated with the rest. I am not really questioning his work-rate anyway, rather his moaning at team-mates and the ref. Yeah a lot of players do that...

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Anyway not that bothered really mate - having a liking for a football manager and showing some bias towards him is wayyyyy down the list of crimes or mistakes in this world. Just think it's interesting that you still stand by Ten Hag despite how bad it's been for United for so long under him...

I don't think anyone questions his talent. It's his apparently questionable attitude and inability to stay fit people rightly have disdain for. Though Loki has claimed there's something of a witch hunt against him in the media. You guys will know better than me where the truth lies.

No, it isn't that. I would say the same if Slot, Pep, Enrique, Ancelotti - anyone - was letting players do what they like. In fact some of them have. It's the hypocrisy. I don't actually dislike Ten Hag as a person - I consider him a poor coach but he's probably a decent guy. I hate United as a...

He looks a very handy player too. Not Palmer potential but talented nonetheless.

If anyone is dumb enough to pay £50-£70m for him, it's United. Just tell them he's still a generational talent - they love that word in Old Trafford.

Yes, as you all say, he is doing really well. He seems professional too. I just hope he can keep it up - I think he will. He's 22 and clearly wants to have a top career. As I said before though, my main reservation is Chelsea not giving him the platform or assistance to make the most of his...

He's like Ronaldo himself - more famous and 'popular' than better people in his area or field. I bet there's much more intelligent amateur football talkers on youtube, and more charismatic too, but unfortunately screaming like an idiot and behaving like a moron (as this kid does) seems to be in...

That guy - IShowSpeed - is an utter cretin who doesn't even like or know football, just uses the sport for internet clout lol.

You been watching Robert Carlyle in Once Upon A Time? :lol:

Yeah Temp was a strange fellow. He clearly hated Messi, Barca etc. He had that attitude of loving the (fake) alphas of football, posted threads about Andrew Tate, talked about players' looks. He was clearly into the red pill/black pill/manosphere movement hard. He's just that type of guy. I made...

Fati is a good and kind lad. I feel he just trolls and doesn't believe any of it. He likes Ronaldo as a player which is fair enough, he was a great player. But he just can't accept that Messi is far better. Deep down he knows though. Rassvet doesn't believe anything he writes, and Temp seemed...

Yes, with their firepower they will always have a chance to win, assuming they can stay in a game (even if they get dominated territorially). Sadly it is what it is and Ancelotti knows playing average football but being strong in both boxes can be successful when you have firepower. He's not a...

Amazing that Ribery, Neymar, Robben and R9 had such injury-hit careers yet still produced such entertainment and beautiful football (though with Robben it was more before the Bayern doctors got him on the right path). Reus to to a lesser extent. Imagine how much better these guys would be...

But he was mediocre at Euro 2016. He had like two good games of 6 and a bit and they won the final without him. His team-mates helped a lot, even if they weren't the best on paper, they still played above themselves on the pitch. It's actually a travesty he gets a lot of credit for that...

He's doing well and I do rate him to a point, but I feel he always has some anonymous games in him. Not sure he can maintain good form over a long period, but not many can. I think Liverpool really need better than the likes of he, Gakpo and Nunez even if they are okay/quite good players...