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Not downplaying his greatness, but holy shit that is some fucking shit defending. Look at those defenders just standing around not putting any pressure on Maradona. I mean you're facing Diego fucking Maradona ffs.

If Bojan doesn't improve drastically he could very well be considered a flop, considering he was touted as the next Messi.

Erm de la Peña was definitely a flop. He was considered better than Xavi, and he really did have the potential to become one of the best players in his generation. Being a good player for Espanyol is not good enough for what his talent had to offer.

And I raise you a Oleguer-Chygrynskiy

Messi's overall ability helps him make better use of his passing skills. For example, I don't think Iniesta could ever make a pass like Messi did to assist Iniesta in the 2nd leg of Supercopa, picking out a pass after skinning several players all in half a second. Having said that, purely in...

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I wasn't accusing you of not watching games or not being a proper fan, it's a figure of speech. I don't agree with your evaluation because based on his performance as a centerback last season can only be described as class. Also he was equally awful as a left back vs. Madrid first leg, so I...

Where were you last season?

Henry's got nothing on Eto'o OR Villa, as great as he was.

Average by Messi's standard is fully deserving of a 9. 4 is indeed a bit harsh on Valdes, though.

Disagree tbh, I think they're comfortably better than Napoli. So they should finish at least 3rd without a problem, not really a good achievement. And I think they have a decent outside chance of qualifying to the next round, I don't think Bayern are that much better than them.

Messi. And I don't see a poll.

This game just shows how off form we are at the moment, and yet we still beat Madrid over two legs. Amazing.

I love how there's a 5 page discussion on his quality when he hasn't even played a single game in Europe yet. How about we wait a few months and see how good he is eh?

Agreed, if Barca weren't so successful nowadays he'd be considered a massive failure. He had what, good half of a season? For 20 million?

Greatest shot stopper that ever lived that is also the 17th best shot stopper in the league...okay.

Wasn't Kranjcar moaning a few weeks ago that Tottenham wasn't letting him go?

Can't find a video of that goal Oleguer scored a few months ago.