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True guys, It's a huge job. But it is also a poisoned chalice.

The amazing thing about Ten Hag is he was up and coming, but was already 52 when he went to United, lol. He was a late bloomer and I am not sure what he was doing between 2002 and 2012.

To be fair, Natalie Portman has always been opposed to the evil Galactic Empire, and that is what Real Madrid are.

Yeah said the same thing. They're acting like someone has died - it is proper weird.

Fair enough. Thanks for the debate, it was interesting. Goodnight, going to sleep.

I wouldn't call it 'enjoyment'. I think it's the wrong word. Like when you watch the Pianist, or Schindler's List, or Saving Private Ryan, you know they are dramatised and take artistic license. However, you don't 'enjoy' the film. You feel a sense of sadness because you know they are (very...

Yeah that is what I meant. Anyway goodnight mate. Take care and I will talk to you soon.

I guess it's those millions of bellends he mostly appeals to, lol.

I just consider most of that being a lowest common denominator cunt, not entertaining. That description describes millions of bellends around the world. What makes him special? I guess people like to laugh at him. Edit: is he athletic? He's certainly no footballer, can barely pass or control...

You might well be right. Isn't it possible that I just enjoyed the film, though? I didn't come out of it feeling angry or bloodthirsty or anything. But like you imply, the whole idea is you don't consciously realise what it is doing. But I do love films. But not just Hollywood ones - I watch a...

Yes his appeal comes in his masculinity. It's a chicken and egg scenario - do women like him because he's in movies, or is he in movies because women like him? I lean far more to the former but with a hint of the latter. Anyway getting very tired and playing in football league games/tournament...

I don't get why anyone would like IShowSpeed though. He has zero redeeming qualities as a person.

True, but plenty of women say he's handsome too (and I know handsome is code for rich, famous, charismatic and likeable in many cases).

ok fair enough if you think that, I don't wanna argue. I don't think that was because of movies or anything though. That's probably just me being genetically unstable.

I was thinking about the Rock today, I don't understand how he's meant to be handsome. He is way too bulky and has a strange face. Jason Statham is a much better example of a bald stud. Though he lacks talent too, like the Rock.

Says a lot about society.

ok whatever you say this conversation is over

and gets to play football with them too, despite the fact he has more left feet than Christy Brown.

Lol it's just a film, I don't take it literally or let it plant ideas in my subconscious. Stop being melodramatic. Maybe that happens to others but not me - I don't even pay attention to celebrity culture and these days avoid politics.

ok I am well aware but still watch. I don't take it that seriously.