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It did help that United had no creativity. If you do that against Bayern then you can say you're solid and organised.

Can't beleive you guys have the cheek to talk about refs...

Wtf? Madrid have the refs in their pocket. Ever wonder why Cristian scores so many penalties?

They are two of the top three teams in the league, I certainly hope there is quality. To be honest both sides lacked attacking quality so you're point seems strange...

Pellee...you could be right, it could be thier attackers were just not on the same page and they couldn't create, seems likely with it not being a consistent lineup.

I think they do. They are defensively quite solid, though Bayern are obvious favourites.

He played for a draw from the start.

The fact Bayern have both flanks on the list shows how good their wide play is. No wonder they destroyed us.

What do you think is the most dangerous flank in world football?

Schurrle isn't really a false nine like I thought, he is playing as a number nine.

Mou at least played khedira, he also had a 4231 which was solid in defence.

Iker you're welcome to join us anytime.

Mou is screwing my fantasy team. I need a reshuffle after only the second week FFS.

Illaramendi will play. Quite regularly.

I think that's how it will play out.

He is, a number ten playmaker. Although he started as a second striker and more on the wings.

I think others will have preference if del Bosque does introduce new players (unlikely he is a conservative coach) such as Isco and Illaramendi. This injury does affect his WC hopes.

You will finish top 4 this season, without a big transfer.

We did fine without him. Obviously we were less captive but we still created chances. The team losing concentration towards the end wouldn't have been fixed with messi. Edit creative not captive

How is muller overrated? He is a great player.