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So does that mean Leganes should just accept that they'll be second to Barca forever then? That's essentially what you want, eh. The big 6 or 7 history clubs to rule forever. Pathetic. Barca can spend much more than leganes because of history and the individual TV deals. For someone talking...

Not really. It proves that Barca will do business with Qatar when it suits them. So crying about them is hilarious. It's on a smaller scale, yes, but still proves you're willing to get into bed with them at some level. If Barca were serious about their hate for PSG they'd refuse any sponsorship...

Doesn't negate the rest of my points. If anything, the greedy dominance and entitlement of clubs like United, Barca, Real Madrid, Liverpool, and their desperation to turn football into much more of a business/much more financially lucrative than it was previously (satellite TV, expansion of CL...

And also, moaning about states when you have been sponsored by Qatar in the past. You take money from them when it suits you. Don't act like Barca and their board wouldn't love the Qatar money.

Other than the moral aspect, I fully disagree. I think @delancey made the same point (despite being a Barca fan himself). Why shouldn't sates be allowed to own clubs? Because they can spend more money? Also, as I said and you ignored, wouldn't clubs like Brentford, Newcastle, Ipswich, Leganes...

Y It's true that losing the full backs fucked you. But my point is injuries happen - you have to be prepared for that. Yeah Martin did play badly in general play, so I was being misleading there.

Yeah, if they played in France they would have. If Madrid were competing against Man City and Liverpool at their peak (I know Madrid peaks several years before those sides did) then it's less clear cut, and I think they'd still have struggled to win leagues. And, again, your point is proved...

If you say so - I hate human rights abusers, but to me the moaning about clubs like City, PSG and Newcastle comes from 'traditional clubs' (and yes I include Barca in that). There's a lot of sour grapes about PSG on this forum because of Barca's dreadful financial predicament- I like Barca but...

That's less to do with them playing in a strong league and more to do with Madrid themselves being a cup team/club. Barca generally win the league alongside the CL.

What sort of argument is that? Yeah, take away a few of a team's better players and they'll be weaker, there's a shock. And Balde and Kounde are nowhere near Mendes and Hakimi in quality anyway. I know it's Barcaforum but call a spade a spade. Plus Balde is more injury prone than those players -...

Other than Pep and Enrique's Barcas - as I mentioned above - and Pep's Man City, I cannot see who is better. I said it above, it's unfair on them as they get no credit for winning the domestic league, so they have to win the CL every season to be taken seriously. But I think they could win any...

True, I was just jesting. Normally agree with you 99 percent of the time on football.

Sweden v Germany tonight. Both qualified already. Winner tops the group. A draw means Sweden are top on account of superior goal difference.

Yeah exactly. The nature of the human (well, most humans) is to take as much as they can get. If they can get more they will take it.

Yeah without delving into red pill and incel stuff, I do view feminism as a supremacy movement, not equality. They want all the perks of being a woman and none of the cons.

Genius recognises genius.

True. But amazingly I still think he'd be a better bet than building around Vini or Bell. All three are very overrated and flawed, for me. And all three are delusional, precious, and think they're far better than they are, fuelled by a media and social media culture that builds up merely...

Plus is Mbappe really worth that sort of sacrifice? More than Vini is I think, but I am still not convinced. They got away with it with Ronaldo because of his insane goalscoring prowess. Mbappe isn't that level of GOAT scorer and has less to his game than Penaldo. He won't scab as many big...

To be fair, Ronaldo's 'mentality' seems to desert him in many CL Finals or every time Portugal go out of a tournament. He's came up big in other games but those games are a black mark for him generally.

Not getting involved in the debate, but just seen playmaking was reduced to assists by Birdy. Yeah that is not true and one of my pet peeves. Assists are often a poor barometer of playmaking and creativity. Haaland gets more assists than Iniesta. Forward players tend to get basic, easy assists...