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There's no potential Argentina went into that tournament as one of the favourites with the greatest player of all time. It was also a much shorter schedule. A month rather than 9. On the other hand Man United finished 15th last season and have no world-class players and a suspected fraud of a...

I think they'll both flop, at least relative to the hype. They're both oversized technical lepers.

One game - which they lost, by the way - and they're in the top four in 37 games time Never change with the reactionary posts Barca forum lol.

What did Sesko do when he came on? Absolutely nothing. He might well turn out to be a hype job. He looks like a giant troglodyte. Gyokeres looks like an oaf too based on today.

It's one game lads, and I think you're both going well over the top anyway. United always raise their game against the better teams. And they weren't that great anyway - they huffed and puffed but created little.

Fucking hell that was awful to watch. Two anti-football hoofball teams. Shame both didn't lose.

More chance of you and me having a threesome with Jenna Ortega.

They'll probably go another 21 years without winning a title.

Yeah they play dodgy football quite often. They're horrendous to watch and their decision making is appalling quite often. The league will come down to City or Liverpool based on my pre season prediction. That's what i think. I do rate Gabriel and Saliba a lot higher than the Man United...

Some of the football on display has been shocking, rounded out by that terrible cross at the end by Gyokeres. It's not the first time I have watched a PL game littered with mistakes and fouls - bad touches, bad passes, bad decisions. These lot have a cheek to slag off other leagues when they...

Not athletic enough to play in a midfield two and not got good enough passing range or positioning. He'd be a disaster paired with fernandes, who's bad enough himself in a midfield two. They have four absolutely dreadful midfield options. They need to play a midfield three.

Yes mate I understand your point. I see what you are saying. I do think Frank is a very good manager, but yeah it's not a case where every manager can make the step up to elite level just with more resources - the same as not every player can be Messi or Ronaldo just because they go to Barca or...

Don't hate him cos he's gorgeous. @Fati_Future_BallonDor

You're both arguing your case well. Both sides have some merit. Just my 10 pence.

Says a lot about modern football, because he SHOULD have lost it due to being inferior to Rodri in performances and importance and general footballing ability.

I don't really agree with the racism, lol. But there is an element of more athletic (faster, stronger) players being liked more these days. And black people tend to be better athletically. Vini is faster and flashier than Kev. That appeals to a lot of fans, even if his game is extremely basic...

Just a bit of banter from some boys. But yeah, it's extremely early. I think he can be a contributor over the season but I'd be surprised if he's a key, integral player. That's just my opinion, though.

I don't agree with everything, but some good points and well thought out. Great pertinent point that you hint at with transfer fees not being the signifier of success, but wage bill.

Well, I certainly agree on that I should clarify my position. I think Rashford can contribute and help the team. But I get the feeling some people here are hoping for big moments in massive games, and I am not sure that will happen. But he can contribute across a season. But it's very doubtful...

Filthier than a gangbang with 5 MILF porn stars. @Total-Football