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Points 167 to 176 of the report explore the various different finer meanings of the word. The fact that they were in a heated moment in no way makes it clear that the intent was racist. Pejorative intent? Surely. Racist? Not sure at all. The fact that we have six different accounts (Suarez...

Do you have any real, non-hysterical arguments to back up your claims? Ah I knew all along that he admitted to calling him "negro" and that it was in the context of an argument. So? And he should be punished (lightly) for the use of the word alone - as should Evra if it had been proved that he...

That's because that is the core principle of criminal justice in any democratic country. It's no exploitation of a hole, it's how things should be done. The principle of "innocent unless proven beyond any reasonable doubt" has a very simple reason: it's better to leave a guilty man free than to...

Because his version/admission is different and less serious than Evra's accusation, which hasn't been proved beyond reasonable doubt. In fact, Evra's account of events hasn't been confirmed by any evidence or witnesses.

Muller's best position is not a playmaker in the middle... he was Germany's best player in the World Cup 2010 playing wide, which is where he's at his best. Kroos has been excellent for a long time. And yeah, if his time with Madrid is your basis to compare Ozil and Reus, then Reus is surely...

That's actually what should be important. Liverpool's defense and its quality is of limited relevance unless Evra can actually prove his claims. The burden of proof is clearly on Evra, as the report itself states but then completely ignores in its 115 pages. Although, clearly biased against one...

Which is exactly what is required to punish someone based on racism. It's very easy to doubt that he's guilty, at least in the terms described. There are at least six different accounts of what happened: Suarez and Evra obviously have different accounts, and the four United players all have...

Yeah, I read that and I kind of understand it. But I still think Hernandez's interpretation would have been interesting information. Unlike the Spanish language experts, he was actually there when Suarez said, presumably heard it and picked up his tone. I'd definitely like to know what he said...

I never said any of the first four... It's a decision that will affect a player's career and reputation in every possible way. You definitely need proof beyond any reasonable doubt to punish someone for racism. And Liverpool would definitely be smart to take this higher. If the "findings" of...

It was like this one in the sense that a player was unanimously considered guilty by people despite lack of evidence. Busquets was vilified beyond belief and branded as a racist simply because Marcelo said so. And yes, I know Liverpool's defense wasn't the most convincing. But that'd only be...

I agree that Liverpool's defense was not very impressive and had its fair share of goals. But it didn't really need to be. Evra is the one with the burden of proof, he's the one who needs to prove beyond reasonable doubt that Suarez did insult him, not the other way round, as the report itself...

The bold point is the core issue here and the one that lacks proof. Basically, only Evra has claimed that. Suarez denied it, the four Manchester United witnesses didn't confirm it. Suarez repeatedly insulting Evra racially is something that is only backed by Evra's words. There are many...

I'd agree that Spain are better, after all they were the only team standing in Germany's way in Euro 2008 and World Cup 2010. But Germany are definitely their closest rivals at the moment, and time seems to be on their side, as their side is considerably younger than Spain, who might face some...

After this, I imagine it will be much harder for him if he ever wants to move to another club for instance. I wonder how you got a better understanding of what really happened. We basically have at least six different accounts of events: Evra and Suarez's of course and those from the four...

Nah, the Bundesliga has long been my favorite league, it's nothing that has been developed recently. And German are indeed going through a golden generation at the moment, the amount of young German talent is incredible, they should a top candidate for every major competition for many years to...

Except nothing on that report is backed up by any concrete evidence and none of the witnesses confirms Evra's story. It's 115 pages of no conclusive evidence at all and absurd statements like "Mr Suarez was not as impressive a witness as Mr Evra." It's 115 pages of absolute irrelevance. It'd be...

Why is it not possible to sue them? The FA are not above the law. Even FIFA is currently facing a criminal lawsuit from FC Sion.The FA can most definitely be sued. Ruining a player's reputation/career based on circumstantial evidence/hearsay is definitely grounds for a lawsuit. Fully agree...

:rofl1: This report is a complete joke. For a law student like myself, the comedy stands out even more. The report is complete garbage, from beginning to end. A case like this would be laughed at in any real court of law Liverpool/Suarez should forget about the appeal and just sue the FA for...

No, it isn't. Ibra has a great track record and has been a top quality striker for many years. Rating him so highly was absurd, but nowhere near as insane as giving 35 million for a player with less than 40 goals in a career mostly spent in the Championship and who frankly doesn't have any...

Also, no one spends 35 million on a 22-year-old player who has scored 39 goals in his entire professional career, most of it spent in a lower level of football in the second division (therefore easier to score goals), yet Liverpool did. The fact that he cost 35 million doesn't prove that he...