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Arda as an option to rotate with Iniesta and cover the wings does sound good. He will get many minutes and will be a good signing, I just don't see how anyone could see him in rakitic position at all? It's like buying song and playing him at centre back.

Those were money laundering as it's obvious they are not good. Gerson seems to be rated by many and gets my benefit of the doubt.

I disagree. Iniesta is playing below his real level in the new role. You should really play players in their actual positions, except in emergencies. If you want a rakitic backup why not buy an actual specialist midfielder who can control the game? Arda has not shown he has the skill set for...

Arda doesn't play in central midfield. He is a creative wide player. If he did play in midfield he would take iniesta's role but surely wouldn't take rakitic role. Completely different players and skill sets.

Arda is a wide player who provides vision and creativity aswell as good defensive work. He's never played there before but he *might* be able to rotate with iniesta in midfield. He has never played rakitic's role in his life and is not the type of player to sit deep, intercept and then try and...

Gerson shouldn't be lumped with those guys. He is a genuine talent and many top clubs are in for him.

Rakitic and arda are totally different players and wouldn't be competing for the same spot at barca.

Spending big money for a first team player is acceptable. You don't pay over the odds for rotation players though.

Suarez was a number nine, something which we lacked in our squad. Not only that he was the best number nine in the world. Arda would be a rotation player here.

Of course he is better than arda, he isn't as consistent as before but for the most part is still a world class player. Still better than the young number tens coming through like götze, isco etc. The reason he isn't absolutely world class in literally every game as he used to be is because we...

That makes no sense. Arda isn't much younger than iniesta, iniesta is better and still has two more good seasons in him, maybe more.

Gerson seems to be a good talent. If they buy him it's because they think he has a future as a starter here.

Arda would be a useful different option but surely he wants to be a guaranteed starter? He would fill in as a rotation option on the wings or even in iniesta's role in central midfield.

Except by that time Madrid would have got their new keeper because they won't have got de gea. So he might stay with you after all.

the offer wasn't that bad. Remember the most expensive keeper ever (buffon) cost only 33m.

This level of swag doesn't pay for itself

was just about to post that. maybe he thinks he is the new zlatan? couldn't get a game for celtic ahead of leigh griffiths though...

"Massive" was a poor choice of words. In terms of history there is a huge gulf, in current playing level they are quite similar, but I think juventus are slightly better, they have proven they can reach a final. I'm sure psg are capable of this but juventus have actually done it.

I know I was just pointing out that in a deal involving these two players the cash would have to come from United end because ramos has more value. If I was United I would keep de gea and go for another defender. Good "franchise" goalkeepers are hard to find.

Ramos has more market value than de gea. So it would have to be United offering de gea plus cash for ramos.