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Their first instinct after they score a goal is always parking the bus. They never look to kill the game. Inviting pressure like that is bound to backfire. Has cost them many times especially in the CL.

The whole team was bad. Roberto was worse than him. Still first to get taken off to accommodate Roberto at RB because he stinked like a turd in MF

He can't win the world cup without improving and he won't improve playing in a farmers league

Well we now know who to hate when CR retires...

With a RB who can actually defend (aka Semedo) that won't be that big a problem. And Arthur-Busi-Cou MF is better to maintain control. As long as every debate's going to start and and end with "but but results"... we're not going places

4-2-3-1 without hardworking attackers tracking back would mean chaos and no MF control. Messi loses the ball and the opposition would have a field day running at our two man midfield. Valverde's 4-4-2 was defensive with 4 MFs to maintain MF control. Nothing like the 4-2-3-1 you're suggesting

Fucking hell how much is Klopp paying you to peddle him? If you have nothing to contribute stop posting.

Will leave a giant hole with Messi and Suarez not tracking back. That's just asking for trouble.

And most of all he protects me from getting dropped

Coutinho-Messi-Dembele As i said i don't expect him to play there but i'll always wonder what could have been....

Hey Zincubus everybody is tired of your repetitive posts about Liverpool. Newsflash we ain't getting them.

I still think his best position might be LW but with our struggles in MF that won't happen especially not with Valverde.

But our squad is not built to play ugly. If Valverde was trying to build a fresh team to implement his vision i could maybe get behind him. But he is hellbent on sticking with the same old veteran players and is trying to impose conservative football on them. It's like he can't play attractive...

So you start the discussion with a petty insults like that but get offended when being called an apologist. Its clear from your tone you consider yourself a superior fan and want to lord your superiority over others who you consider as spoiled crybabies. Newsflash nobody gives a damn about your...

Bus parking football can only take you so far. It can be used to take a team out of a rut like Atletico was in when Simeone took over. But it can't make you into an elite team which regularly competes for the big titles. They might do something in cup competitions but those 1-0 wins won't take...

Hahahaha from "but...but results" to "but...but he rotated" to "but...but echo chamber" The only ones here who want their ego stroked from an echo chamber are Valverde cheerleaders like you who'll put their fingers in their years to avoid listening to valid criticisms about their idol Valverde...

So we are back to "but but results" :lol: It seems like the circle is complete

Just using your logic back at ya. The shit stinks when it's on the other side doesn't it? We played much better than Valverde's teams many times at Anoeta and still didn't win due to luck. Unless you are counting Valverde's luck into the equation there's no saving grace for him here. Nobody is...

That's where the manager comes in and lays down his vision where players pull their weight in a cohesive system. Sadly Valverde is content on Messi bailing him out.

With the mighty nations league there's no meaningless friendlies anymore :pep: