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  1. Bertus

    Penal Madrid

    Chaotic or not. What barca is showing on the pitch is fantastic. If Barca keeps it up, the double is not unreachable.
  2. Bertus

    Martin Odegaard

    And I think you can't please everyone. Bayern did it right imo. If Kroos wanted to leave after that, fine. But Bayern made the right choice instead of passing on Goetze to not displease Kroos.
  3. Bertus

    Penal Madrid

    What's wrong with what Morten said? I can see Barca winning both la Liga and the copa. Since last night result I am pretty sure we will win the CdR if we draw against Atletico. Which seems easy right now after what the boys have shown last night and last week. And RM is in bad form. I can see...
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    Martin Odegaard

    And we have no way to know what would have happened either way. People are talking about hypoteical scenario. I can write one too. We sign Odegaard. Halilovic is displeased and leave because Barca doesn't want to raise his wage. Odegaard becomes messi #2 at 20yo, Halilovic who moved to...
  5. Bertus

    Martin Odegaard

    And Goetze ended up being the one who scored the winning goal for germany. A hero. Something that will make Bayern shines for years because he plays there. If you only want to look only at the bad things (Kroos left) fine, but I dare betting that if Bayern had to do it again, they would do...
  6. Bertus

    Martin Odegaard

    I don't see any problems in him earning more if at the same age he's more talented. The rest is up to the clubs management. If they don't want to risk it in fear of what you are talking about, fine. But what you are talking about is the same that can happen when players are older. If your...
  7. Bertus

    Martin Odegaard

    Never said barca should. I'm replying to Luft who's saying Barca financially can't.
  8. Bertus

    Martin Odegaard

    I fully believe Barca or Bayern can offer as much if they want to Odegaard. They just chose not to.
  9. Bertus

    Martin Odegaard

    If he is smart he reviewed everything that was offered to him. As far as we know, RM offered a lot, not just "money". Look at how he was offered to train with the first team. Just that can be thrilling. If he was offered to train with Eusebio here, and with Carlo there, just that can be...
  10. Bertus

    Martin Odegaard

    As I said, you don't need to earn 1 million per day to get sidetracked if for some reasons you end up being sidetracked. You also can be sidetracked by many things beside money. Look at how Lavezzi ended up spending his night in clubs drinking alcohol and such. If this kid is smart, he won't...
  11. Bertus

    Martin Odegaard

    Then what's the problem? Honest question. You say I misunderstood you. No problem about it. I just want to understand what we are discussing and what problems you see in that deal.
  12. Bertus

    Martin Odegaard

    I am talented in my work. A few years ago, I had to pick among some job offers from companies that offered the same kind of places to work at, advantages, etc. One offered me more than the other. Why should have accepted the less paid job offer? If this kid was offered the same kind of jobs...
  13. Bertus

    Martin Odegaard

    Then what it is? What are we discussing about? You said Barca and bayern wouldn't have offered that much. Ok, then what? :p My point in replying to you was that since there's no rules, I don't see what can be criticized about it unless you throw moral values in the pot based on what you think...
  14. Bertus

    Martin Odegaard

    He could get sidetracked by lots of things besides money in his lifetime. There's no point in judging him when nothing happened at all for now.
  15. Bertus

    Martin Odegaard

    This is ok based on what? Your moral values? Your view of football? You know from my POV what's surrounding Neymar's transfer is infamous. Not the money, but what happened behind the scene. What could have been illegal. What could lead neymar's dad to the court. RM didn't break any rules in...
  16. Bertus

    Martin Odegaard

    That you can't doesn't mean others should not do it if they can while not crossing any lines. By crossing lines I mean RM doesn't break any rules or anything.
  17. Bertus

    Martin Odegaard

    You don't know what RM promised him, nor the different clauses in this contract if he doesn't get the promised playtime. How can you say he refused better prospects if you don't know anything about what was offered to him. FFS. Better prospect is not only about playtime right off the bat once...
  18. Bertus

    Martin Odegaard

    What's wrong is linking money to moral value as if above a certain amount of money you become an evil person.
  19. Bertus

    Martin Odegaard

    Luft, as I said in the previous page, there's nothing wrong about accepting a job which has the best salary. There's no moral value behind it unless you are asked to do bad things to get such salary. I don't understand what you guys dislike about it. If a company (RM) wants to offer him a...
  20. Bertus

    Martin Odegaard

    Some people in this thread are communists or what? 1/ Money is not a bad thing. What could be bad is what you're doing with it, and what you are asked to do to get it. 2/ There's NOTHING wrong in choosing the best salary if two companies offer you the same job with the same kind of best...

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