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Yeah its like the fighter that gets older. The opening for the big right hand is there but he doesn't have the reflexes anymore to pull the trigger on it anymore. That's Xavi. Every now and then, we'll see moments of brilliance and he'll occasionally slot in a nice through ball. But he...

^^^^Well remember Pep said that when he left it had to do with being "unable to motivate" the players anymore. And I guess considering all they've won, it would be easy to get comfortable. Messi in particular doesn't have any competition. Its not like there's anyone who can push him for...

In truth, he wasn't playing well at all. He should have come off sooner. Love Andres but he was worse than Cesc and Xavi yesterday.

We need a striker up top to get the best out of Cesc. The false 9 experiment doesn't work anymore now that teams park the bus against us. But are these changes the management staff are willing to make?

Kilometers ran by Atletico players 'Cebolla', 2,023 Courtois, 3,313 Diego, 4,521 Adrián, 7,758 Miranda, 8,477 Godín, 8,670 Villa, 9,149 Juanfran, 9,548 Filipe Luis, 9,819 Tiago, 11,348 Rául García, 11,660 Gabi, 11,737 Koke, 12,280 Kilometers ran by our guys Pedro, 2,494...

He's not the Villa of old, that's for sure. But he's still better than Pedro and Alexis IMO.

Perhaps Messi is too comfortable?? Everyone knows he's an untouchable and plays every game without any competition to his spot. The problem is, benching Messi would cause a lot of problems within the club and it could get ugly. We need a change in tactics and formation. This false 9 thing...

Much like top players at any club, Xavi surely has a lot of pull here. He'll only step down when injuries take their toll (Ala Puyol) or when he decides he's done.

Masch was just AWFUL. Was fortunate that Webb didn't call a penalty for his foul on Villa.

I don't think he has the legs anymore. But I'm not convinced Montoya is an adequate replacement either.

Had nothing to do. It just wasn't our night considering how well Atletico played.

If we sell Messi, its like a COMPLETE rebuilding. I agree that we could use a few changes(Starting with management), but I'm not prepared to say Messi needs to go. Especially knowing that he would be a monster wherever he plays.

Xavi- "We deserved a draw" :lol:

Yeah but with the way the match was going, I don't see it. Messi couldn't dribble through. Neither could Neymar. Iniesta really should have come off sooner.

Wasn't the game for him to make an impact. Atleti's defense was too organized. Anyone who expected him to make a difference was hoping against hope.

Made some saves, but he also had help from the cross bar.

Messi still has it but he could be getting a little bored, I think. He didn't look like a guy who really wanted it out there. No fight. No effort to press or win the ball back.

Any questions?

He was bad but at least he tried. Can't say the same about Xavi and Busquets.

Quality player. Hopefully one day we could see him at Barca.