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I'm not going to continue to argue the same thing. It's pretty laughable to me people sit here and claim that 09-11 team who DOMINATED football had no mental strength. It's just befuddling beyond belief. No wonder they think the team now lacks character. They just don't understand what...

What thugs were there in 15 when they won the treble? Unless you somehow consider Mascherano a thug and him alone confers thugishness to the entire team. It's pretty crazy that you would sit there and write that sextuple and treble winning teams had no mental strength.

Perhaps I do :crbust:

Write a shorter more concise post. Be considerate with others.

So Suarez had character then, but not now. Neymar a character guy now? He was there in 16 when we lost to Juve. The guys back then were serial winners, but somehow the same guys now are serial losers? Again, you cannot switch character on and off like all you are suggesting. A player with...

Not gonna read the whole post BBZ, too long man. But from the first part equating physicality with character is another fallacy. As it is suggesting physicality is indispensable for success. Luka Modric for instance is a strong character player, and not a physical one. Barca's and Spain's...

Did the team lack character when they won a treble in 15? Virtually same team as now sans Mascherano, Iniesta and Neymar, only one of which you can say is a strong character guy. Did they lack character when they overcame 4-0 deficit against PSG with a 6-1 victory before losing to Juve? Did...

The team is full of champions who have competed and won top honors. You can't have character when you win and not have it when you lose. Doesn't work like that. You might accuse them of lacking motivation, that's fair, but not character. The undoing of this team has been talent. They've...

The team doesn't lack character. What it lacked was talent and sensible managing. They've addressed the talent part, but the manager is still a big issue.

The signing is not terrible at face value. You buy a former top player on his last legs, coming off injury, for a low fee. It's a low risk, high reward type of gamble. You're betting he regains his fitness and gives you his last couple of years of good production. This is not a Paulinho...

Problem isn't the money, nor is it ultimately the player itself. If we had trust in our coach, this wouldn't be an issue because we'd trust he would use Vidal on a limited role based on his characteristics. Because it is Valverde, this is concerning. He will play Vidal in a key role if fit.

And Vidal will take minutes while giving no control.

Younger by 4 years, better player, better fit, better character. All minute details because ..... reasons.

Vidal getting sent off in key games and off field alcoholism is the epitome of mental strength....

Had to come back just to laugh at this shit :lol: Get ready for Vidal in your soup. Valverde will play him until he can't play him anymore.

It's a moot point about Firmino. Barca isn't taking another player from Liverpool less than a year after the Coutinho saga. Specially not after them netting 140M for Coutinho and then going to CL finals. They'll be looking to build up and they have the funds.

This is not true. They can replace Suarez internally if they get two mids by playing a trio of Coutinho, Messi and Dembele. Barca have no starting WC mid right now. They have Coutinho who is less than ideal CM, much better as LW; and they have Rakitic who is not good enough. It is...

Your guess is as good as any. When you have no planning, no philosophy and a convoluted decision making structure with several people at the helm all with different views and motivations for signing players, anything is possible.

Poor planning and poor execution. Whatever scheme they set upon ends in either failure or pyrrhic victory.

What does it mean? An empty platitude at this point.