Victor Osimhen

Birdy

Birdy

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DonAK said:
He's gonna whine and have his outbursts, but man do I want him at Barca.

Quick, very strong, good in the air, decent enough technically and presses like a madman.
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Thuram is much better suited to us, and IMO better player overall

Osimen is flashy thanks to his physique and speed.
But the truth he is very limited technically.
If he comes here, he will run riot in transitions, but will find himself not knowing what to do against buses

Thuram, on the other hand, is not as flashy, but:
he is not as good as Osimen, but close, in transitions,
and infinitely better in small spaces and technically.

The CF of Barca should be able to play in small congested areas and find solutions there.
That's what has always been with the ones succeeding here and marking an era (Romario, Eto, Suarez... Even Kluivert who is not on the same page)

PS: Rumors today from Sport we want Thuram in the summer.
Hope it is true, but most likely Laporta media campaign
 
DonAK

DonAK

President of FC Barcelona
@Birdy

The CF of Barca also need to be able to score a lot of goals and play as a lone striker.

Thuram has played in a two-striker system or more out wide(early at Gladbach) for pretty much his entire career.
 
Birdy

Birdy

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DonAK said:
@Birdy

The CF of Barca also need to be able to score a lot of goals and play as a lone striker.

Thuram has played in a two-striker system or more out wide(early at Gladbach) for pretty much his entire career.
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He is perfectly capable of playing as a lone striker: he can hold up the ball, play with back to goal, combine link up, and of course score

Besides, the concept of the 'lone striker' does not really apply to Flickball. Our CF is always surrounded with other players
 
MonteCuler

MonteCuler

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Inter has best striker depth in the world

Lautaro, Thuram, Esposito, Bonny

All 4 are class

So maybe they would be willing to lower the price for one of them. Don't think Bonny is our level yet but would take other 3 in a heartbeat
 
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DAMNit

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Comparing Thuram to Osimhen is not just poor footballing knowledge it's outright stupidity, I am sorry. Thuram is in no shape or form comparable to Osimhen. He is more of a supporting striker than a striker, and thus tiers below Osimhen as far as being a striker is concerned. In the world of strikers, you don't get the type of hype and attention Osimhen gets if you are not a freak of sort. You are either ridiculously fast, physically intimidating, insanely athletic, or just a goal machine, All the qualities Osimhen possess...very similar to Haaland. Not to mention Osimhen also presses like a mad man. Thuram on the other hand doesn't possess any of those qualities, his play style is somewhat more rigid, stiff and he is noticeably slower than Osimhen, he doesn't score a lot of goal either. There's a good reason he is second choice striker behind Kolo Muani for the French NT.
 
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Temptation

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Osimhen is a better finisher/header and quicker but Thuram is more versatile, technical and intelligent.

And Thuram is fast too. Not slow at all.

Osimhen is more of a pure 9.

Flickball's ideal striker is prime RL9 and none of these 2 players remotely resemble him in any way.

Osimhen has mentality and motivation issues which is why he's playing in a shit league in his prime.

Thuram can also cover LW when needed. But he's very underwhelming as Barca's main striker. I really rate the player though.
 
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Temptation

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DAMNit said:
Comparing Thuram to Osimhen is not just poor footballing knowledge it's outright stupidity, I am sorry. Thuram is in no shape or form comparable to Osimhen. He is more of a supporting striker than a striker, and thus tiers below Osimhen as far as being a striker is concerned.
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They're being compared only because they're market opportunities and options for Barca. Thuram can play as a lone striker easily. It's more because of career opportunities and Inter's formation that he plays in a 2 striker system.

DAMNit said:
In the world of strikers, you don't get the type of hype and attention Osimhen gets if you are not a freak of sort. You are either ridiculously fast, physically intimidating, insanely athletic, or just a goal machine, All the qualities Osimhen possess...very similar to Haaland. Not to mention Osimhen also presses like a mad man.
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He's good but let's not forget he's spending his peak in the Turkish league. That shit would never happen to a Haaland, Aguero or Kane.

Purely technically, Osimhen is better than Haaland. Still won't call him a freak though.

DAMNit said:
Thuram on the other hand doesn't possess any of those qualities, his play style is somewhat more rigid, stiff and he is noticeably slower than Osimhen, he doesn't score a lot of goal either. There's a good reason he is second choice striker behind Kolo Muani for the French NT.
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You're completely wrong here. Thuram is very strong technically and has good close control too. His Football IQ and facilitating abilities are very underrated. He excels at team play and creating space for his teammates. He's only slightly slower than Osimhen. Thuram is pretty fast himself.
 
delancey

delancey

Senior Member
Temptation said:
They're being compared only because they're market opportunities and options for Barca. Thuram can play as a lone striker easily. It's more because of career opportunities and Inter's formation that he plays in a 2 striker system.


He's good but let's not forget he's spending his peak in the Turkish league. That shit would never happen to a Haaland, Aguero or Kane.

Purely technically, Osimhen is better than Haaland. Still won't call him a freak though.


You're completely wrong here. Thuram is very strong technically and has good close control too. His Football IQ and facilitating abilities are very underrated. He excels at team play and creating space for his teammates. He's only slightly slower than Osimhen. Thuram is pretty fast himself.
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DAMNit

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Temptation said:
He's good but let's not forget he's spending his peak in the Turkish league. That shit would never happen to a Haaland, Aguero or Kane.

Purely technically, Osimhen is better than Haaland. Still won't call him a freak though.
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That shit won't happen to either of them mostly due to factors other than footballing ability itself. I am not going to be one of those people who pretend like race and nationality doesn't play a role in a player's trajectory and ascension. Otherwise how do you explain Haaland, Aguero and Kane going from smaller teams despite not accomplishing anything significant with those teams, even outright failing in the case of Harry Kane, but still getting snatched up by bigger teams? And then you have an Osimhen who made Serie A history with Napoli the same club where elite strikers Cavani, Lavezzi, Higuain etc failed, ending up in Galatasaray, while his wingman Kvara ends up in PSG? Ironically every single one of those ex-Napoli strikers mentioned went to bigger clubs after their failure ridden stints at Napoli btw. Does it make any sense that bigger teams want Odimhen to take a pay cut to join them, but on this same forum you have people saying they are willing to pay 200m for Julian Alvarez? Lol. Let's be honest here man, Liverpool and Utd respectively chose Nunes and Hødjlund/Sesko over Osimhen not because of wages or footballing ability. We all know how those transfers ended with regards to results. And for the records Osimhen's Napoli stats are EXCEEDINGLY superior to Aguero's Ateltico Madrid stats for domestic league and UCL.
 
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Temptation

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DAMNit said:
That shit won't happen to either of them mostly due to factors other than footballing ability itself. I am not going to be one of those people who pretend like race and nationality doesn't play a role in a player's trajectory and ascension. Otherwise how do you explain Haaland, Aguero and Kane going from smaller teams despite not accomplishing anything significant with those teams, even outright failing in the case of Harry Kane, but still getting snatched up by bigger teams? And then you have an Osimhen who made Serie A history with Napoli the same club where elite strikers Cavani, Lavezzi, Higuain etc failed, ending up in Galatasaray, while his wingman Kvara ends up in PSG? Ironically every single one of those ex-Napoli strikers mentioned went to bigger clubs after their failure ridden stints at Napoli btw. Does it make any sense that bigger teams want Odimhen to take a pay cut to join them, but on this same forum you have people saying they are willing to pay 200m for Julian Alvarez? Lol. Let's be honest here man, Liverpool and Utd respectively chose Nunes and Hødjlund/Sesko over Osimhen not because of wages or footballing ability. We all know how those transfers ended with regards to results. And for the records Osimhen's Napoli stats are EXCEEDINGLY superior to Aguero's Ateltico Madrid stats for domestic league and UCL.
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This particular case has nothing to do with race or nationality.

I completely agree about nationality affecting how players get rated. If Alvarez was East European or African no one would rate him as highly. One of my favourite players Lewandowski suffers from the same problem and gets criminally underrated.

Would Osimhen get more hype if he was English, Argentine or Brazilian? Ofcourse he would. But that's not the reason he's in the Turkish league rn.

Osimhen had big offers on the table from clubs like Chelsea and United but picked his club for financial reasons. Osimhen was extremely highly rated by the big clubs in Europe when he was at Napoli and Lille. United would pick Osimhen over Sesko anyday.

Osimhen could easily go to a big club if he wanted. A quick Google search reveals that these clubs were interested in him during his Napoli stint: Chelsea, Paris Saint-Germain, Manchester United, Arsenal, Bayern Munich, Juventus, and Saudi sides Al Ahli and Al Hilal.
 
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Temptation

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DAMNit said:
That shit won't happen to either of them mostly due to factors other than footballing ability itself. I am not going to be one of those people who pretend like race and nationality doesn't play a role in a player's trajectory and ascension. Otherwise how do you explain Haaland, Aguero and Kane going from smaller teams despite not accomplishing anything significant with those teams, even outright failing in the case of Harry Kane, but still getting snatched up by bigger teams? And then you have an Osimhen who made Serie A history with Napoli the same club where elite strikers Cavani, Lavezzi, Higuain etc failed, ending up in Galatasaray, while his wingman Kvara ends up in PSG? Ironically every single one of those ex-Napoli strikers mentioned went to bigger clubs after their failure ridden stints at Napoli btw. Does it make any sense that bigger teams want Odimhen to take a pay cut to join them, but on this same forum you have people saying they are willing to pay 200m for Julian Alvarez? Lol. Let's be honest here man, Liverpool and Utd respectively chose Nunes and Hødjlund/Sesko over Osimhen not because of wages or footballing ability. We all know how those transfers ended with regards to results. And for the records Osimhen's Napoli stats are EXCEEDINGLY superior to Aguero's Ateltico Madrid stats for domestic league and UCL.
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Kane was insanely successful at his first professional club Tottenham. Failed loan spells mean nothing when you prove yourself at your parent club.

Haaland was a freak since his young days and scored at an impeccable rate.

Higuain was a failure at Napoli? Are you on drugs? He literally broke the Serie A all time record at Napoli securing a 90 mil move to Juventus. Prime Higuain was one of the best strikers in the world.

Cavani and Lavezzi were great for Napoli. I have no idea what you're getting at here.
 
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DAMNit

Member
Temptation said:
Kane was insanely successful at his first professional club Tottenham. Failed loan spells mean nothing when you prove yourself at your parent club.

Haaland was a freak since his young days and scored at an impeccable rate.

Higuain was a failure at Napoli? Are you on drugs? He literally broke the Serie A all time record at Napoli securing a 90 mil move to Juventus. Prime Higuain was one of the best strikers in the world.

Cavani and Lavezzi were great for Napoli. I have no idea what you're getting at here.
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How many titles did Cavani, Higuain and Lavezzi combined win at Napoli?
How many trophies did Haaland win in comparison to Osimhen at youth level?
I argue based on facts not emotions, or personal preference.
 
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DAMNit

Member
Temptation said:
This particular case has nothing to do with race or nationality.

I completely agree about nationality affecting how players get rated. If Alvarez was East European or African no one would rate him as highly. One of my favourite players Lewandowski suffers from the same problem and gets criminally underrated.

Would Osimhen get more hype if he was English, Argentine or Brazilian? Ofcourse he would. But that's not the reason he's in the Turkish league rn.

Osimhen had big offers on the table from clubs like Chelsea and United but picked his club for financial reasons. Osimhen was extremely highly rated by the big clubs in Europe when he was at Napoli and Lille. United would pick Osimhen over Sesko anyday.

Osimhen could easily go to a big club if he wanted. A quick Google search reveals that these clubs were interested in him during his Napoli stint: Chelsea, Paris Saint-Germain, Manchester United, Arsenal, Bayern Munich, Juventus, and Saudi sides Al Ahli and Al Hilal.
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Did any of the players you mentioned, or better still, any player of Osimhen's caliber accept pay cuts to join a big club? He even offered to maintain his Napoli wages at Chelsea, but Chelsea wanted a native English striker who in their words "understands the PL", and thus they chose Delap. Stop with the prevarications to drive your point. Utd wanted to slash Osimhen's wages drastically, but didn't do same for Sesko, Hojlund or Cunha
 
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ToranagaSama

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Don't understand why we are linked to him. Galatasaray signed him not long ago for € 75M until 2029. We'd have to pay triple figures to buy him at this point. In which universe is that happening?
 
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