serghei
Senior Member
Obviously. No worries, there's always next season. He's gonna be here a while. Everyone can have a poor season at the very top.
10 - Lamine Yamal
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Obviously. No worries, there's always next season. He's gonna be here a while. Everyone can have a poor season at the very top.
The fat lying glutton maybe?
Remember his quote after midget fiesta? "I only regret not being at Lamine's party".
JamDav1982
Senior Member
Then he has the WC to wipe that away.
Few chances.
The biggest flop at Barca in CL this season has been Raphinha.
serghei
Senior Member
Sure, but under big pressure this time. He's no longer the kid sensation that took over everyone by surprise at the Euro, he's Spain's leader in offense and their no10.
serghei
Senior Member
The biggest flop this season in CL will be whoever out of Raphinha and Yamal will not deliver in the knockout phase. Goals, key assists, end product comes first.
They are two top 5 players of last season and they are expected to mark the difference again. If it's Raphinha, sure, you seem to be under the impression that I hold Raphinha to this insane standard. I value his work ethic, and his leadership, his fighting spirit, but a great player he is not.
Masetro10
Member
People think Yamal is having a bad year because they expect him to become Leo Messi and thats facts.
He is way better than last year. Infinitely better. You just don't notice because the guy is being hard focused because teams aren't scared of anybody out there lately.
No pedri
No raphinha
Bench player Lewa
Ferran misses 20 chances a game
Barca's whole defense is ass so they know a free goal will happen no matter what.
He is way better than last year. Infinitely better. You just don't notice because the guy is being hard focused because teams aren't scared of anybody out there lately.
No pedri
No raphinha
Bench player Lewa
Ferran misses 20 chances a game
Barca's whole defense is ass so they know a free goal will happen no matter what.
JamDav1982
Senior Member
Lets see if Raph can finish season without being Barcas biggest flop in the CL of the attacking players.
Lets see what Raph can lead Brazil to.
serghei
Senior Member
I dislike Brazil, hope he has a stinker and they go out soon.
Asylum15
Senior Member
He needs to adapt his game then.
Every top player gets marked crazy after a breakout season - He spends too much time just waiting wide right. He needs to come in-field more often, make runs in behind etc. It's too easy to mark him.
I grant you Kounde is a hot mess however.
JamDav1982
Senior Member
Whether you like them or not is irrelevant to point.
Raph has been biggest flop in CL this season and needs to turn it around and do something.
More interviews bitching about balondor than goals/assists in CL this season.
serghei
Senior Member
The credit I give to DonAK argument regarding Lamine Yamal is that he seems to be more disciplined at Spain NT under De la Fuente. So it may be an issue with our management and our squad.
I may be mistaken, but I see a more structured and tactically disciplined Lamine when he plays with Spain.
I may be mistaken, but I see a more structured and tactically disciplined Lamine when he plays with Spain.
JamDav1982
Senior Member
He is disciplined for Barca.
Works hard off the ball. Quite clearly sticks wide in way Flick is asking and plays for the team.
Masetro10
Member
I agree he should move in. Hell maybe even play him at the 10 and see what happens. He might be told to stay wide who knows. But yeah i'm stuck on our full backs right now as major major culprits for everything.
Kounde and Balde vs Alves and Alba type wingbacks. Obviously both of Alves and Alba were top tier offensively but they helped the wingers out so much
BBZ8800
Senior Member
About playing Yamal as a 10, that could work if we would have another world class RW.
If you move your main player into the middle = you get Barca from 2018-2020 when Messi moved to central areas and we became slower and more predictable than ever.
Almost all teams defend in such way that there are more bodies in central areas than on flanks, because if your opponent is free to run and shoot from central areas = that is an easy goal.
The last time when there was room in central areas was in Pep's era, when he started to use 433 vs 442 formation. He had 3 central midfielders, a false midfielder in Alves and a false 9-midfielder in Messi. Back then nobody knew how to defend centrally against our team (plus we had a huge numerical advantage in the middle) and thus we were creating 20 shots per match.
Over time Mourinho and other coaches started to play 4231, park the bus, counters and leaving more space on the flanks to neutralize our play.
And since the whole world started to use Pep's ideas and 433, then everybody also figured out how to defend against 433 and possession football.
The answer is: low block, counters, a lot of bodies in central areas around the box.
So, if you play against the low block with a lot of bodies in central area around the box, you don't want to play through a no10 through center but:
1) through wings
2) try some counters
3) fast transition actions
4) crosses, low crosses and cut back passes from flanks into the box
This is why Barca with Messi in the middle became even more slower and sterile.
Messi's individual numbers in terms of chances created, sterile dribbles and goals went up but the whole team in general became slower, predictable and we were just passing the ball from left to right and waiting for Messi to do something centrally, surrounded by 4 opponents.
So, moving Yamal into the middle is inviting similar problems.
He would be asking for a ball all the time (like central-Neymar in late Psg years), he would try to dribble past 7 opponents all the time and not much would be happening.
Here and there (just like Neymar), he would dribble past 4 defenders and score a wondergoal but until then, he would lose 100 balls and we would face 50 dangerous counters after losing the ball in central areas.
Almost all big teams have the main players at LW and RW positions.
Only Messi's Barca and Neymar's Psg had this type of a number 10.
Without too much success on the biggest stage.
The last time when we won a CL, Lucho forced Messi to play as a RW and not in his preferred central role.
Regarding Kounde, he is not perfect, but he is a good player for covering Yamal considering how many balls he is losing in attack.
An attacking RB wouldn't work in pair with Yamal because the opponents would try to catch both RB and Yamal in the attacking third, wait for Yamal's dribble, take possession and play every single counter through that flank where we would have our pivot covering and running against their wingers (2 players) and if our RCB would try to help, we would leave giant holes in the middle of the box after a low cross or a cut back pass.
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BusiTheKing
Senior Member
On the whole I don't think we are entitled to much moaning about this kid.
That said, he would make life a lot easier for us all if he were to start the game with the same level of focus as he shows towards the end.
That said, he would make life a lot easier for us all if he were to start the game with the same level of focus as he shows towards the end.
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