Diego Simeone

Temptation

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Klopp is great. But his style has him challenging the best of Pep Barcelona. All of that geggen pressing is a huge weakness vs Pep Barcelona. You'd want someone to build a strong defense, go to war, and hit deadly on the break. Mourinho, Simeone types, with beasts like Drogba up front.
On paper maybe but in actual practice, Pep teams have struggled the most against Klopp by far.
 

Temptation

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I think Simeone is a bit overrated tactically. He's very basic in terms of tactics and instructions. It's more about motivation, man management and discipline. His system has never been very sophisticated or innovative.

He isn't as good a tactician as Mourinho, Capello, Allegri, etc. Named master tacticians with a similar style of play to illustrate my point.
 

serghei

Senior Member
On paper maybe but in actual practice, Pep teams have struggled the most against Klopp by far.

You're missing my point. For me, as a Barca fan for 30 years, the most dangerous managers have been Mourinho and Simeone. And it is because of one thing. The ability to set up their teams to give everything in defense and middle of the park.

At their best they were the cream of the crap of defensive, pragmatic managers.
 

Temptation

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You're missing my point. For me, as a Barca fan for 30 years, the most dangerous managers have been Mourinho and Simeone. And it is because of one thing. The ability to set up their teams to give everything in defense and middle of the park.

At their best they were the cream of the crap of defensive, pragmatic managers.
Because you as a Barca fan have rarely played Prime Klopp.

Pep has faced Klopp numerous times for years.

A Prime Jupp Heynckes Bayern would be a pretty tough opponent for Barca too.
 

serghei

Senior Member
Because you as a Barca fan have rarely played Prime Klopp.

Pep has faced Klopp numerous times for years.

A Prime Jupp Heynckes Bayern would be a pretty tough opponent for Barca too.

All great teams would be tough. I said who would be toughest. That Barca side turned the most dominant EPL club in the modern era into a sparring partner.

Klopp is great. After Pep he is probably the best attacking minded manager around.

For me, having suported a side gifted with the best of the best in terms of attack, the defensive greats pose more problems, in terms of players and managers alike.
 

Windhook

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Klopp teams WON way more games against Pep teams so I'm not sure this makes any sense? 🤨
"Way more" being 11 vs 12 wins in favor of Klopp.

Same applies for Klopp, lost most of his career games against Pep.

But then prime Klopp vs. Ancelotti is terrible (3W, 7L). Pep vs. Ancelotti are a tie (6-6).

What's the point being made here anyway? Titles count, not El Clasico wins.
 

Temptation

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"Way more" being 11 vs 12 wins in favor of Klopp.

Same applies for Klopp, lost most of his career games against Pep.

But then prime Klopp vs. Ancelotti is terrible (3W, 7L). Pep vs. Ancelotti are a tie (6-6).
It means Klopp won way more games than those other managers did against Pep.

And Ancelotti is an all time great lmao.

Klopp is clear of Simeone as a manager and the toughest matchup for Pep specifically.
 

Windhook

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It means Klopp won way more games than those other managers did against Pep.

And Ancelotti is an all time great lmao.

Klopp is clear of Simeone as a manager and the toughest matchup for Pep specifically.
Klopp is a great manager to rival Pep. And they made each other better and the respect they have.

But as I said titles count, not H2H matches.
 

Richard.H

Senior Member
Will be a huge loss for ATM. Quality of LL just keeps getting worse and worse. ATM will be back to being that team that we used to beat 6-0, 4-0 on a somewhat regular basis.

I could see Simeone going to Serie A.
 

Birdy

Senior Member
Still....

The discussion is valid.
Yes, prime overachiever from 2011 to 2016

But he has overstayed his welcome the last 10 years.
With every passing year, he is become more toothless and more bening, and tactically outfoxed by much lesser coaches/teams

Watch him now get eliminated by Brugges
 

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