Champions League 25/26
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JamDav1982
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You literally just said it is bad if Arsenal run away with it.. as was case when said Liverpool had it won.
It isnt bad for league at all if Arsenal are best team and win it.
Would actually be big for the league another winner and one like Arsenal with their following and EPL history.
Never hear how it is 'bad for league' when Xavi lost it by ten points to Real.. or wins it ahead of them the season before.
Didnt hear how it was bad for league when Real 5 points clear a few weeks back.
Arsenal are just incredible. I think they only have 3 players they can't afford injured now. Rice, Timber, Zubimendi. Their squad is so strong they can have Saliba, Gabriel, Califiori, Saka, Gyorkores injured and still dominate.
Chelsea are also going the right direction, they have an immense midfield and squad depth too. Big game this weekend.
Chelsea are also going the right direction, they have an immense midfield and squad depth too. Big game this weekend.
serghei
Senior Member
La Liga looks like it is going through its worst periods in the last decades, but need to see the knockout games in CL to see the actual level of Madrid, Atletico, Barcelona vs the big EPL sides.
Something funny happens with EPL champions in next seasons though. City shite last season, Liverpool looking like going to shite this season...
Nello
Member
Funny how there's been so much attention on how well English teams are doing in Europe atm.Yes because that was your golden era.
4 of your 5 CLs were in the 2006 to 2015 period.
La Liga was never the number 1 league. It just had the 2 best teams in the world at the time.
The league from top to bottom isn't anywhere near the PL in terms of quality, entertainment or competitiveness. Let's not act like it was 90s Italia.
When it was Spanish teams that absolutely dominated both CL and EL for the first 20 years of this century, it wasn't a good measure of the league's competitiveness for whatever reason.
EPL has for sure overtaken spanish football the last 5 years or more, but it's incredible how people don't recognize the fact that Spanish 2nd tier teams killed it compared to English equivalents for years.
JamDav1982
Senior Member
Anything can happen in CL.
Would be suprised if all of them compete as a group the way EPL teams will but Real have the pace and individuals to hurt anyone but have been at best in Europe previous years when dont think can outplay everyone as Xabi currently seems to think.
City dominated for year after year in EPL.. that team had to end at some point.
Liverpool went for massive change in summer and hasnt paid off so far.
FinBarcelonafan
Well-known member
Bayern looked shite. PL is the best atm.. sad to realize.
serghei
Senior Member
EPL looked strongest league by a clear factor 3-5 years ago when City and Liverpool used to battle it out in fierce competition deep into the season. And both consistenty got deep in CL also.
Arsenal looks to have settled as main EPL competitor in the league and Europe, but they need another consistent challenger at least. A team that stays there at the top consistenty and is a big gun in Europe. Chelsea look closest. City are off, and Liverpool started a rebuild on the wrong foot.
jamrock
Senior Member
English teams take turns at the top. United vs Chelsea mid to late 00s, then Liverpool vs City in mid to late 10s, then City vs Arsenal in early 00s, it seems it can become Arsenal vs Chelsea for 2-3 sesons.
Only Tottenham is never in the mix
Yep always 2-3, never this 5+ some keep talking about.
JamDav1982
Senior Member
Arsenal and league dont need that at all.
It wont add quality to league if not two teamd going back and forth like Spain for most seasons is.
serghei
Senior Member
It builds consistency for said teams to prove themselves in CL year after year against the best teams of other leagues, like PSG, Bayern, Madrid etc. That is the real battle arena, CL final stages. Quarters and especially semis signals the prime cut of the top European teams.
Doesn't matter that much if Everton for instance is better than midtable sides in other leagues, the bigger clubs from those leagues are gonna handle them just like a not so great Barcelona handled a good but not top class EPL side in Newcastle.
JamDav1982
Senior Member
Your argument is Arsenal are worse off in CL if win EPL by a distance?
No chance.
Barca are in two team league... done fuck all for them in CL in recent years.
Loki
Well-known member
Bayern has the same problem we do, or even Madrid. Without a sugardaddy, it's impossible to have a squad depth big enough to rotate without losing quality. At some point, your starting XI falls off because of injuries or simply fatigue and your bench players are not on the same level. English clubs don't have that problem, they can easily afford 15-20 players of similar quality. We don't play by the same rules anymore.
JamDav1982
Senior Member
Flip side of it is also that EPL is far more competitve and physically demanding.
serghei
Senior Member
Need to see what a club is made of after they get the title they've been chasing for years. Does winning become the standard, or you throw a big party of happiness and eventually drop the level soon after.
EPL fans use this "league competitiveness" to excuse a lot of things. SAF dominated this league. Pep dominated it not long ago. The issue is it is hard to get to the level to dominate for an extended period.
EPL fans use this "league competitiveness" to excuse a lot of things. SAF dominated this league. Pep dominated it not long ago. The issue is it is hard to get to the level to dominate for an extended period.
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