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khaled_a_d

khaled_a_d

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So, Tim Cato (Mavs insider) is saying Nico Harrison rated Jrue Holiday at same level of Jokic.

If true, it confirms that Nico wasn't just an idiot, but essentially a biased one. He has preference to American players and probably Luka never stood a chance to win him over.
 
khaled_a_d

khaled_a_d

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TheStig said:
The most hilarious thing is that AD got fat in Dallas. Worst trade of all time but long term the best thing that could happen to Dončić.
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tbf to him, he was banned from any athletic training for months due to eye surgery. It is normal to gain weight if you aren't allowed to workout while maintaining sane amount of calorie intake.

He will get in shape soon enough.

I don't agree the trade is good for Luka. He had a team built for him, a great one too. Now, he is in an equally bad organisation, that has bad roster and even bigger expectations. If he doesn't deliver a chip he will be called out, with the likes of SAS and Perkins claiming he couldn't do it in two franchises.
 
TheStig

TheStig

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Luka last season was also injured but they traded him primarly because he was fat. I don't excuse him, no professional sportsman who gets paid millions should be fat at any point, that's the bare minimum.

The trade is good for Luka because he used it for motivation to get in shape, that probably wouldn't happen in Dallas. He went to a worse team short term but long term there is a lot more of potential in Lakers than in Mavs. This is like going from Osasuna to Real Madrid if we're honest but first they have to get rid of Lebron and bring a top free agent and trade a few players, they'll have many options in 2026 and 2027, it's on Pelinka to make the right moves, we'll see if he'll do it or not.

This season the team is probably too weak for a ring but you never know with Luka in this form. I predict he'll be the MVP this season but won't go to the finals yet.
 
khaled_a_d

khaled_a_d

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TheStig said:
Luka last season was also injured but they traded him primarly because he was fat. I don't excuse him, no professional sportsman who gets paid millions should be fat at any point, that's the bare minimum.

The trade is good for Luka because he used it for motivation to get in shape, that probably wouldn't happen in Dallas. He went to a worse team short term but long term there is a lot more of potential in Lakers than in Mavs. This is like going from Osasuna to Real Madrid if we're honest but first they have to get rid of Lebron and bring a top free agent and trade a few players, they'll have many options in 2026 and 2027, it's on Pelinka to make the right moves, we'll see if he'll do it or not.

This season the team is probably too weak for a ring but you never know with Luka in this form. I predict he'll be the MVP this season but won't go to the finals yet.
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Lakers has no assets to bring a big trade, never mind current CBA killed the chances of superstars moving as Free agents.

Lakers have been mediocre ever since Dr. Buss passed away. They lucked into a ring after the NBA gave them lottery gifts for years and they they traded it all for AD, after Lebron decided LA was his retirement home. Even then they needed covid bubble so their squad was totally healthy to win it. It was the perfect storm.

Look at the 2026 free agents list, it is nothing that will change his forune. And once Reeves signs a renewal, they won't have a chance of 2027 free agents.

Wemby is apready surpassing Puka, and SAS have better future, same as OKC. I can't see how Lakers can make to the finals within the 2026-2028 time frame, except for some massive luck or some rigged shit to happen.
 
TheStig

TheStig

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I said they had a lot of work to do and it's not a sure thing they will do it but you'll attract a lot more players in LA than in Dallas.

khaled_a_d said:
Wemby is apready surpassing Puka,
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No he's not and probably never will. Wemby didn't achive 5% of what Luka did in his career and he's not even better this season. He had a couple of freak amazing games but quickly went back to a lower level. He has potential to be great but can't compare him to Luka yet. Wouldn't bet Wemby will ever be at that level consistently, I'm afraid his body won't allow it. Anyway, I always prefer players with superior technique to physical freaks in any sport.
 
Windhook

Windhook

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TheStig said:
No he's not and probably never will. Wemby didn't achive 5% of what Luka did in his career and he's not even better this season. He had a couple of freak amazing games but quickly went back to a lower level. He has potential to be great but can't compare him to Luka yet. Wouldn't bet Wemby will ever be at that level consistently, I'm afraid his body won't allow it. Anyway, I always prefer players with superior technique to physical freaks in any sport.
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I don't think Wemby have surpassed Luka's achievements. Luka is one of the greatest shooters in the history of basketball.

Wemby is more versatile in comparison, though. If he manages to stay healthy given his fragile 7'5 (nobody knows exactly) frame, could become one of the greatest to have ever played the game. This season so far Wemby's been purely phenomenal. NBA have never seen this type of giant center playing as slasher guard, 3pt shooter, Hakeem Olajuwon in the paint and blocker in one.

All this said, take Wemby out of the equation, Spurs suck completely in defence.
 
G

Gnidrologist

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Don't care much for negroball or basketball in general, but always wondered how somebody as chubby as Donutchich can be such a prolific player, especially in sports, where nimbleness and agility seem to be such a key asset along other skills. He's basically a murican hamboiger meme, while still being young. Could he fare the same in the 90s, where likes of Denis Rodman would just bully him off the pitch by simple hand check, while MJ looked like 5% body fat uber athlete, who could jump higher without preparation than most track and field jumpers now days?
Seems that the game is rigged for great shooters with little to no athleticism now days so they can harvest fouls and be protected like little babies all the time. No wonder Chich is always crying to referees, when something doesn't get called his way, especially in international tournaments.
 
TheStig

TheStig

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Windhook said:
I don't think Wemby have surpassed Luka's achievements. Luka is one of the greatest shooters in the history of basketball.

Wemby is more versatile in comparison, though. If he manages to stay healthy given his fragile 7'5 (nobody knows exactly) frame, could become one of the greatest to have ever played the game. This season so far Wemby's been purely phenomenal. NBA have never seen this type of giant center playing as slasher guard, 3pt shooter, Hakeem Olajuwon in the paint and blocker in one.

All this said, take Wemby out of the equation, Spurs suck completely in defence.
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But still Luka has a bettter start of the season than him right now and the past seasons are not even comparable since Luka was miles ahead. We'll see what the future bring but for now it's clear who is far ahead.

I like Wemby, he's really unique but it's gonna be hard staying healthy with a body and playstyle like that. Hope he does it, Europeans taking over the NBA for a while now.
 
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