Temptation
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Neves is a physical player.
You don't need to be big to be physical.
Kante and Keane were small men who were extremely physical.
Gavi is tiny but a physical player.
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You don't need to be big to be physical.
Kante and Keane were small men who were extremely physical.
Gavi is tiny but a physical player.
Temptation
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Goretzka was a monster in Bayern's sextuple season under Flick but he isn't a DM. He was a box to box beast.
He's finished though.
He's finished though.
Temptation
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Haraldinho
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Better to not expect too much from them. Just try to avoid humiliation.
khaled_a_d
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Then Pedri is also a physical player too. He is one who ran more than most, win duels more than most, and disposed less than most.
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That's why I said 'physical' in a traditional sense.
The man want big players that are tall and powerful. The type of players there's plenty of, but very few that are also technically gifted.
Rassvet
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Built different
Rassvet
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cooked him
serghei
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He isn't. Ferran Torres probably runs more than Mbappe during a game.
Pedri runs a lot, but at lower pace and intensity compared to someone like Vitinha or Neves. If you see both, the difference in intensity is notable and easily observed with naked eye. Speed, intensity, stamina, how sturdy you are vs players breathing down your neck and pressing you, these are part of a player's athletic ability.
It's not even about height or how much you run (in midfield everyone who is good runs a lot anyway, putting in most kms in their teams). Messi for example was short, but fast, strong, durable in duels, and had insane acceleration.
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Temptation
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No. Pedri is slow and weak.
Running the most doesn't necessarily make you the most physical.
serghei
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It is not a huge difference between them on pure individual level (since Vitinha plays in a more cohesive midfield structure), but Pedri is naturally a bit of a slower player. When you take a player who is not some athlete in the first place and you ask him to cover a huge area, it becomes an even bigger problem. And for what? For Olmo and Fermin?
You ask Vitinha to cover a wider area in a midfield 2, he'll probably struggle more and he wouldn't look quite as fresh as he does for PSG.
This is Pedri average heat map:
This is Vitinha's:
You ask Vitinha to cover a wider area in a midfield 2, he'll probably struggle more and he wouldn't look quite as fresh as he does for PSG.
This is Pedri average heat map:
This is Vitinha's:
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JamDav1982
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Cant really compare how the midfield of PSG are asked to play when have those full backs and those attacking 1v1 players.
It massively stretches the pitch, gives room to midfield and less need to go into those areas.
Barca have not signed a single 1v1 dribbling attacker by comparison and spent on likes of Kounde at RB who needs far far more support from midfield both with the ball and defending.
They had one attacking 1v1 player already there but fumbled that and lost him to... PSG and he wins the balon dor.
Lucky Yamal was there already or have no 1v1 players.
Pedri and FDJ are being asked to do lot outwith the middle of the park in way others get more focus on.
Lets not forget Pedri also won the double as one of best midfielders in the world playing that way.
It massively stretches the pitch, gives room to midfield and less need to go into those areas.
Barca have not signed a single 1v1 dribbling attacker by comparison and spent on likes of Kounde at RB who needs far far more support from midfield both with the ball and defending.
They had one attacking 1v1 player already there but fumbled that and lost him to... PSG and he wins the balon dor.
Lucky Yamal was there already or have no 1v1 players.
Pedri and FDJ are being asked to do lot outwith the middle of the park in way others get more focus on.
Lets not forget Pedri also won the double as one of best midfielders in the world playing that way.
JamDav1982
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You are missing the fact that PSG have those attackers and full backs that stretch the game and allow for far more freedom for their midfield to be in middle of park and game ticking.
Barca cant just decide to play that way.
Dont have the players and the issue of lack of same quality full backs and number of 1v1 attackers would still be there.
Barca cant just decide to play that way.
Dont have the players and the issue of lack of same quality full backs and number of 1v1 attackers would still be there.
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