Joan Laporta

Barcaman

Administrator
Staff member
Apparently we still owe shitload of money just for transfers being made 4 years ago. Ferran, Kounde, Raphinha, etc.

Barcelona's overall debt for transfers amounts to €159m, of which €140m must be paid in the short term (this current season).

— @marca
 

DonAK

President of FC Barcelona
Pini Zahavi brought some investors with him to meet with Laporta to help out the club financially.

This is news that should make any culer nervous. Big agents like Zahavi are sharks and don't give a shit about helping a club like ours and we shouldn't involve them in these matters either.
 

JamDav1982

Senior Member
Investment is inevitable.

They have not even remotely 'saved' the club without it as some make out.

Worst part is they will most likely have investment.. but still have the lever income gone for decades despite it as investors cant come in and just clear that.
 

khaled_a_d

Senior Member
Pini Zahavi brought some investors with him to meet with Laporta to help out the club financially.

This is news that should make any culer nervous. Big agents like Zahavi are sharks and don't give a shit about helping a club like ours and we shouldn't involve them in these matters either.

I mean, Zahavi will be a brooker to a deal like that. Which is a normal practice.

And you think investors as in buying shares? I think it is more levers
 

draconifire

NTC with a Positive attitude
I would much rather be a mid table club with no CL football for a decade, than sell the club for % of it.

Its the pride we will be losing. Wining anything will be hollow.
 

Titan98

Active member
I would much rather be a mid table club with no CL football for a decade, than sell the club for % of it.

Its the pride we will be losing. Wining anything will be hollow.
It would not last for a decade, it would last for ever (in a fan owned system). We would loose our standing, would loose many of the so called „success fans“ which would mean we would earn much less from merchandise, ticket sales etc. That would probably lead to Barca no longer being able to service their loans (espai barca) due to insufficient stadium revenue. We would probably fall into a downward spiral that would ultimately lead to bankruptcy and a sale to investors. What's more, if, as you say, Barca doesn't play in the Champions League for 10 years, the income from the league TV pot would be far lower due to a poorer ranking than it is now with the Lever percentage deducted. A lot of what Laporta did wasn't perfect, but he still reduced net debt from €680 million to €469 million, which is a 30% reduction in five years. I think that's very strong considering that he also made us competitive on the pitch.

I would also support barca if it is a mid team for a decade but i would not want to loose it to investors, one point why i doesnt like those plastic investor premier league teams

Edit: Oh, I'm just now realizing that you meant, "I'd rather be a mid-table team before selling the club." I completely agree, but I think, as I explained, a mid-table Barca would only lead us to this scenario if we play in the Champions League and can service our debts. There won't be a sale.
 
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draconifire

NTC with a Positive attitude
It would not last for a decade, it would last for ever (in a fan owned system). We would loose our standing, would loose many of the so called „success fans“ which would mean we would earn much less from merchandise, ticket sales etc. That would probably lead to Barca no longer being able to service their loans (espai barca) due to insufficient stadium revenue. We would probably fall into a downward spiral that would ultimately lead to bankruptcy and a sale to investors. What's more, if, as you say, Barca doesn't play in the Champions League for 10 years, the income from the league TV pot would be far lower due to a poorer ranking than it is now with the Lever percentage deducted. A lot of what Laporta did wasn't perfect, but he still reduced net debt from €680 million to €469 million, which is a 30% reduction in five years. I think that's very strong considering that he also made us competitive on the pitch.

I would also support barca if it is a mid team for a decade but i would not want to loose it to investors, one point why i doesnt like those plastic investor premier league teams

Edit: Oh, I'm just now realizing that you meant, "I'd rather be a mid-table team before selling the club." I completely agree, but I think, as I explained, a mid-table Barca would only lead us to this scenario if we play in the Champions League and can service our debts. There won't be a sale.
I have Faith in Masia. We will be competative.
Also we will lose the same amount of fans when Messi left. And we have recovered frorm it. Dont forget most Succes Fans were Messi fans too.

I am not saying it will be 100% rossy, and easy to build back. But I have faith on This Badge, Masia and football we play and given to the world that we will always be in the top, even with no money and crushing debt.
So I dont want to sell its soul. It does far worse damage.

Plus imagine, come 5 years time, we are the only Top club thats fan owned. That's something no one will be able to beat.
 

RedxMAK

Well-known member
I have Faith in Masia. We will be competative.
Also we will lose the same amount of fans when Messi left. And we have recovered frorm it. Dont forget most Succes Fans were Messi fans too.

I am not saying it will be 100% rossy, and easy to build back. But I have faith on This Badge, Masia and football we play and given to the world that we will always be in the top, even with no money and crushing debt.
So I dont want to sell its soul. It does far worse damage.

Plus imagine, come 5 years time, we are the only Top club thats fan owned. That's something no one will be able to beat.
Barcelona will never die. Only team in Europe to play European competition every season since 1955.
 

DonAK

President of FC Barcelona
I mean, Zahavi will be a brooker to a deal like that. Which is a normal practice.

And you think investors as in buying shares? I think it is more levers

I still wouldn't rely on agents to broker such deals. Especially after what we're going to pay Darren Dein 50m along with Nike to broker that deal.

It's madness.
 

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