Hans-Dieter Flick

Hansi Flick - how do we rate him?


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Porque

Senior Member
Never expected Munster to be so good at football.

But I guess the only way United could improve was to give their Premier League slot to another team.
 

Barcaman

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ffs why won’t no one listen. Raphinha’s km’s covered is what is hugely missed.

Even if we had lost form, we would substantially be better with his workrate.

Fermin and Gavi's too. Spoke about it weeks ago. In a system heavily relying on press we missed 3 guys who press the most.
 

JamDav1982

Senior Member
Gavi was more or less a non entity last season and pressing not missed this.

Even with Fermin and Raphinha in team it hasnt been great this season really and teams breaking too often.

The structure of it is off and teams have adapted. It was happening at end of last season with them also.

Inter scored 3 and 4, Real scored 3 in Barcelona, Atletico scored 4 in Barcelona, Villareal scored 3 etc.
 

Horatio

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Gavi was more or less a non entity last season and pressing not missed this.

Even with Fermin and Raphinha in team it hasnt been great this season really and teams breaking too often.

The structure of it is off and teams have adapted. It was happening at end of last season with them also.

Inter scored 3 and 4, Real scored 3 in Barcelona, Atletico scored 4 in Barcelona, Villareal scored 3 etc.
Not arguing the structure point, but with Raphinha and likes of Fermin you increase chances of winning ball higher up which:

1) Cuts back the times opponent has to attack your goal
2) Creates more chances for Barca.
 

JamDav1982

Senior Member
In theory yes but not been the way this season when played really and Barca were conceding a ton with them last season also.

So it is being over played a bit.

The issues Barca have are all over park and teams being wiser to the set up.

Not long ago folk were claiming Barca were defending better this season and a bit deeper.. didnt see that at all.
 

JamDav1982

Senior Member
It was the case against sociedad and PSG.

Seem to be trying to rely on offside trap again since Sevilla.

PSG dominated the ball a lot more to point they were not breaking as much and Barca didnt defend well that game.

PSG broke the offside trap to score the winner.

Sociedad Barca pushed high/played offside trap in same way did last season.
 

BJJ

Well-known member
Man, fixing this is going to be a herculean task.
Imo if we beat Madrid, than our biggest issue is motivation. If we lose than it's simply because the high line has run it's course and Flick needs to improvise.
Alot of people here want attacking, entertaining football but don't realise that this football will always leave you open to the counter.
Having big gaps in certain positions doesn't help. Cubarsi needs to see the bench. I'd go with Christensen, Araujo or Kounde as CB s. Kounde has been shit at rb this season anyway. In the double pivot we need a proper physical DM. That's non negotiable. How many times do we see Pedri or Casado being bullied?
Despite injuries last season we seemed to be in much better physical condition. Im not sure what happened this season but we look alot slower. Girona cutting us apart at will was a disturbing sight indeed.
 

Horatio

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PSG dominated the ball a lot more to point they were not breaking as much and Barca didnt defend well that game.

PSG broke the offside trap to score the winner.

Sociedad Barca pushed high/played offside trap in same way did last season.

There was 1/2 games where we activated offside trap 0 times and opponent didn’t score or once.

It had to do with tactics as opponent couldn’t run as easily behind our final line.

Can’t remember if Valencia or Oviedo was one of those games.
 

JamDav1982

Senior Member
There was 1/2 games where we activated offside trap 0 times and opponent didn’t score or once.

It had to do with tactics as opponent couldn’t run as easily behind our final line.

Can’t remember if Valencia or Oviedo was one of those games.

What games?

Barca have defended with more or less same high line in every game.

Failing to catch teams offside doesnt mean were not trying to or that there was even many situations opposition got forward and tried to break it that often.
 

Horatio

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What games?

Barca have defended with more or less same high line in every game.

Failing to catch teams offside doesnt mean were not trying to or that there was even many situations opposition got forward and tried to break it that often.
Aye, more or less I can get behind with.

I will concede as it has to do with how high attacking opposing players position themselves as well.

But I think it was Getafe game.

Also against newcastle our central defenders stay behind much further.


Day and night with how things looked against Sevilla where our CB will try to get on same line as their upmost player.
But Sevilla more aggressive than Getafe yes.
I will need to investigate further.

Could Joan absence tie into it?
 

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