Hans-Dieter Flick

[Horatio]

PSG dominated the ball a lot more to point they were not breaking as much and Barca didnt defend well that game.

PSG broke the offside trap to score the winner.

Sociedad Barca pushed high/played offside trap in same way did last season.

There was 1/2 games where we activated offside trap 0 times and opponent didn’t score or once.

It had to do with tactics as opponent couldn’t run as easily behind our final line.

Can’t remember if Valencia or Oviedo was one of those games.

 

[JamDav1982]

There was 1/2 games where we activated offside trap 0 times and opponent didn’t score or once.

It had to do with tactics as opponent couldn’t run as easily behind our final line.

Can’t remember if Valencia or Oviedo was one of those games.

What games?

Barca have defended with more or less same high line in every game.

Failing to catch teams offside doesnt mean were not trying to or that there was even many situations opposition got forward and tried to break it that often.

 

[FinBarcelonafan]

All wins minus ATLETICO for MADRID.
All thanks to the refs.

Its not happening this season. Very blatant.

Real was never going to let Barca embarrass themselves again like last season. They will do whatever it takes to win.

 

[Horatio]

What games?

Barca have defended with more or less same high line in every game.

Failing to catch teams offside doesnt mean were not trying to or that there was even many situations opposition got forward and tried to break it that often.

Aye, more or less I can get behind with.

I will concede as it has to do with how high attacking opposing players position themselves as well.

But I think it was Getafe game.

Also against newcastle our central defenders stay behind much further.


Day and night with how things looked against Sevilla where our CB will try to get on same line as their upmost player.
But Sevilla more aggressive than Getafe yes.
I will need to investigate further.

Could Joan absence tie into it?

 

[JamDav1982]

Barca almost conceded early through high line v Newcastl and there goal was also from team pushing up to play offside trap even when 2-0 up.

I just dont think much has changed but teams are a bit more patient at times if cant beat it.

It wasnt every single game teams were being caught out last season either.

 

[Porque]

I think this is a trademark of Flick ball. Abysmal defending is his calling card, the flaw everyone knows. I checked out the Bayern forums. Most got used to it, they said Bayern could concede 2-3 goals to the worst sides of Bundesliga at any point. It's the same with us. Most frustrating entertaining ball possible is how Bayern fans put it, and it fits Flick to a T.

At this point, it's useless to demand Flick to change his ways. We can only hope the offense is so well drilled as to carry the defense, or call it a day and move past Flick. If we do move past Flick, one bad season is not enough to lose hope in him. We can bounce back next year even if we suck this year, provided Flick doesn't implode with all the pressure he might get.

Good point.

I checked and at this stage last season we conceded 8.

This season 10.

So defence is on par.

BUT I'd argue with the eye test that we are conceding more changes. Someone would have to confer with the xG.

So yeah, issue is systematic, and of course injuries and form of the attackers to outperform goals let in.

 

[RedxMAK]

Good point.

I checked and at this stage last season we conceded 8.

This season 10.

So defence is on par.

BUT I'd argue with the eye test that we are conceding more changes. Someone would have to confer with the xG.

So yeah, issue is systematic, and of course injuries and form of the attackers to outperform goals let in.

No, the difference is that the high line was executed more efficiently. If it weren’t for the high line’s insane execution we would’ve conceded at least 3 v Villarreal away in September. I remember that game vividly they had like 3-4 goals disallowed

 

[jamrock]

No, the difference is that the high line was executed more efficiently. If it weren’t for the high line’s insane execution we would’ve conceded at least 3 v Villarreal away in September. I remember that game vividly they had like 3-4 goals disallowed

True

 

[Loki]

Hansi Flick: “During Bayern against Barcelona (8-2 match), my celebration was the same for all eight goals, and I didn’t smile at any. This club may have changed me — I’m more emotional — but I love it and want to give my all. Although I don’t want my grandson to see me doing what I did against Girona.” #fcblive

Barca has this aura to even trigger such a calm and kind personality as Flick's. Didn't smile once at the historical 8-2. Celebrates a goal against Girona like it was the last minute CL final winning goal. You have to love him.

 

[Gnidrologist]

Catalans have given him cooties.

 

[Horatio]

Damn…if you put it through google translate basically says “Barca could break me”

 

[iniestaGOAT]

Game vs MADRID will tell us if FLICK ever wants to or will flexible.
Cause MBAPPE is about to cook if he continues with that silly high line.

 

[jamrock]

The funny thing is mbappe cooked in 3/4 games we played them, we were so close to dropping points in the game at home if they had better finishing, so based on this season almost every team has master the fact that you need a later runner to break the line, mbappe and vini running from deep, only araujo, blade and kounde can potentially keep up with them once the line in broken to make the shot someone what difficult..

Still think we'll win though, at worst a draw, they haven't been particularly good this season as a team just saved by the ref.

 

[Fati_Future_BallonDor]

Hansi Flick: “During Bayern against Barcelona (8-2 match), my celebration was the same for all eight goals, and I didn’t smile at any. This club may have changed me — I’m more emotional — but I love it and want to give my all. Although I don’t want my grandson to see me doing what I did against Girona.” #fcblive

Barca has this aura to even trigger such a calm and kind personality as Flick's. Didn't smile once at the historical 8-2. Celebrates a goal against Girona like it was the last minute CL final winning goal. You have to love him.

Unhateable 😍😍😍

Im sure even @Messi983 likes him deep in his heart 😋

 

[malvolio]

It's not even about high line anymore. Defense is sub-par. We have no in-form defender and we still struggling to find out what is our best CB pairing.

Even Kounde(who was seen as the best defender we have) looks like a clown lately.