Hans-Dieter Flick

Hansi Flick - how do we rate him?


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RedxMAK

Well-known member
Bruno Guimarães:

— “Barcelona are an annoying team — they always want to keep possession and never get tired of controlling the ball.”

— “They make you lose your nerves—you don’t touch the ball, so you get physically drained and exhausted, and when you finally get it, you don’t use it well because you’re tired.”
This is what Barcelona is all about.
:love:
 

FinBarcelonafan

Well-known member
Bruno Guimarães:

— “Barcelona are an annoying team — they always want to keep possession and never get tired of controlling the ball.”

— “They make you lose your nerves—you don’t touch the ball, so you get physically drained and exhausted, and when you finally get it, you don’t use it well because you’re tired.”

Yeah, sounds like Flick has made some changes.
 

Porque

Senior Member
Obviously most of us were first introduced to his approach to football with Bayern but I don't recall an emotional coach rather a stoic & reserved one. You do have the sense of someone very committed to the club

Seems he wants this to be his legacy club.

Just as Pep at City ( *sad face emoji being masked by dollar signs* ), Klopp at Liverpool and it seems LE at PSG ( *sad face emoji being masked by dollar signs* ).

But with Flick it kind of makes sense. He won the treble with Bayern, but they never really truly saw him as the one despite that. Initially got the job as Kovacs interim, and then after a slightly less spectacular second season, exited rather than re-build or improve.
 

RedxMAK

Well-known member
Seems he wants this to be his legacy club.

Just as Pep at City ( *sad face emoji being masked by dollar signs* ), Klopp at Liverpool and it seems LE at PSG ( *sad face emoji being masked by dollar signs* ).

But with Flick it kind of makes sense. He won the treble with Bayern, but they never really truly saw him as the one despite that. Initially got the job as Kovacs interim, and then after a slightly less spectacular second season, exited rather than re-build or improve.
Despite what Pep does at City and how much he wins. No one will ever recognise him as Man City’s man over Barcelona’s man. Pep’s Barcelona is the greatest sports team the world has ever seen and its legacy will never be erased. And Pep will forever always be remembered for his Barça days than his City days despite the trophies he won at City
 

Jozh

Member
Considering we had no Balde or Lamine, a win vs Newcastle any way how is good, but we still are having problems with switches of play and deep runners. If it weren't for Joan, a more clinical team would have had us down about 2 after the first 20 minutes. The same issues are still here from last year and I'm losing hope that they'll ever go away. Our pressing while better against Newcastle, still not up to the level it was at last season. I'm happy we won but I can't leave that game satisfied.
 

Porque

Senior Member
Considering we had no Balde or Lamine, a win vs Newcastle any way how is good, but we still are having problems with switches of play and deep runners. If it weren't for Joan, a more clinical team would have had us down about 2 after the first 20 minutes. The same issues are still here from last year and I'm losing hope that they'll ever go away. Our pressing while better against Newcastle, still not up to the level it was at last season. I'm happy we won but I can't leave that game satisfied.

That Newcastle no offside was proper bs btw. Fake runner moving offside to enable a deep runner to profit is no different in interference than a player standing in front of the goalkeeper.

Yet one is offside and the other isn't.
 

MonteCuler

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I was impressed with how well they handled the first 10-15 minutes. Unbelievable pressing supported by thousands of voices in one of England's best stadiums and they endured without much problem

I don't even have to remind you that all our teams in the past 6-7 years would absolutely shit the bed in that atmopshere and in those particural moments

I don't care if he wins the CL, whic is the ultimate goal, when he leaves I will be grateful for changing the mentality of this club and helping it rise again
 

serghei

Senior Member
I was impressed but I knew we can do it. Because Flick values physicality and effort also, we are not a technical side with fitness issues that can be bullied by physical teams anymore.

Only time we looked physically poor last season in Europe was at 4-0 in the tie vs Dortmund away.

If we can hold our own in terms of matching the physicality and speed of EPL sides, which I admit set the benchmark on these areas together with PSG and Bayern, then our superior technique can mark the difference, and vs Newcastle it did just that. We absorbed their heat well, and outclassed them with our technique in the end.

And we don't have to see the keeper making big game changing saves as some sort of a defensive problem. Almost all the teams that won CLs lately had keeper standout performances. Keeper is a key part of defense. Only Barca at City saw it as an aftertought, very glad we woke up. As did City.

Stegen and Ederson were the worst big club keepers and both of them have been cut, you can not afford mediocrity in goal anymore. Neither team is comfortably the best these days to carry an average goalie. If you want or have an ambition to win CL you need a keeper capable of making top saves when needed.
 
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Jozh

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I was impressed but I knew we can do it. Because Flick values physicality and effort also, we are not a technical side with fitness issues that can be bullied by physical teams anymore.

Only time we looked physically poor last season in Europe was at 4-0 in the tie vs Dortmund away.

If we can hold our own in terms of matching the physicality and speed of EPL sides, which I admit set the benchmark on these areas together with PSG and Bayern, then our superior technique can mark the difference, and vs Newcastle it did just that. We absorbed their heat well, and outclassed them with our technique in the end.

And we don't have to see the keeper making big game changing saves as some sort of a defensive problem. Almost all the teams that won CLs lately had keeper standout performances. Keeper is a key part of defense. Only Barca at City saw it as an aftertought, very glad we woke up. As did City.

Stegen and Ederson were the worst big club keepers and both of them have been cut, you can not afford mediocrity in goal anymore. Neither team is comfortably the best these days to carry an average goalie. If you want or have an ambition to win CL you need a keeper capable of making top saves when needed.
I agree and understand that a keeper making saves should be seen as a given, especially in a Champions League game but the quality of shots we allow to any team we play indicates that it is a defensive issue. Football is really simple, you want to maximize your shots to score goals and minimize the opponents. Big game saves should be and are a lot rarer for really good teams until they play other really good teams. Big game saves happen for us every game, 1v1s and such. Further more, considering the individual performances of Kounde and Araujo being their best in months and we still conceded such chances tells me that this structure isn't sustainable or appropriate for big games. We won many times by outscoring people but if our pressing isn't there then we are automatically worse off.
 

serghei

Senior Member
I agree and understand that a keeper making saves should be seen as a given, especially in a Champions League game but the quality of shots we allow to any team we play indicates that it is a defensive issue. Football is really simple, you want to maximize your shots to score goals and minimize the opponents. Big game saves should be and are a lot rarer for really good teams until they play other really good teams. Big game saves happen for us every game, 1v1s and such. Further more, considering the individual performances of Kounde and Araujo being their best in months and we still conceded such chances tells me that this structure isn't sustainable or appropriate for big games. We won many times by outscoring people but if our pressing isn't there then we are automatically worse off.

We did play a good team in Newcastle. Rayo are a good team also. We haven't faced much vs Valencia for example.

There are games and games. We have enough experience as fans to know which are the tricky games beforehand. Rayo and Newcastle, hardest matches on paper in the first 5. And they were. Especially Rayo who played a great game vs us.

We anticipate Getafe will be a low score game even at home. And it will probably be one.
 

Jozh

Member
We did play a good team in Newcastle. Rayo are a good team also. We haven't faced much vs Valencia for example.

There are games and games. We have enough experience as fans to know which are the tricky games beforehand. Rayo and Newcastle, hardest matches on paper in the first 5. And they were. Especially Rayo who played a great game vs us.

We anticipate Getafe will be a low score game even at home. And it will probably be one.
Newcastle and Rayo are good but not great teams, Rayo much less than Newcastle. I can acknowledge they are good teams and still not expect us to concede the quality of chances we concede so often. I'm fine with saying that we will suffer or we won't be as dominant against Newcastle/Rayo as we would be versus Valencia, but that doesn't change the fact that the quality of chances we concede is a problem. Playing a tricky opponent with the idea that you are bound to concede high quality chances regardless is asinine, especially since last season there were stretches of time where we were able to limit those high quality chances through off ball actions like PRESSING well. Acknowledging that a team won't be a pushover doesn't absolve you from trying to fix issues, ESPECIALLY when those issues were highlighted in our CL semi final and have been issues with Flick teams forever.
 

Loki

Well-known member
Flick: "Balon D'Or? I don't know, I think one day we will see Lamine win the award. We WILL ATTEND the ceremony out of respect because we are nominated, and we will see what happens. Any player who wins the award deserves it. I want to enjoy the ceremony and show respect for our nomination for the award and for the winners."

A certain entitled shitclub, who doesn't know how to spell respect, could learn a thing or two from Hansi.
 

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