Luis Diaz

topt

Senior Member
As for this, I often feel there's wastage in football and clubs and staff just buy for the sake of it.

I don't know the full details of Sane's transfer, or if he wanted to leave. But he is actually more talented than Diaz, and only a year or two older. This seems like Bayern have spent a lot of money on a sideways step and decent player who won't really move the needle. Yes, it's their money, their choice, and they can afford it, but this seems a microcosm of a wider thing in football where clubs spend fortunes on players who aren't even much if at all better than what they previously had, and who don't help them improve much anyway.

I think a lot of football fans like shiny new toys. They love to see fresh faces and new transfers, and even the directors and scouts feel similarly, or at least try to appease the fans. That's why we see players traded and transferred all the time, even though much of the time the team barely gets better than they were before. Yes some clubs really make strides and win a lot, but it's not the norm.

There are always going to be winners and losers in football though, as that's the nature of a league table, so I suppose my argument is biased as every club signs and half the league has to finish in the bottom half - so I will always be able to point to teams that spend a lot and fail.
sadly talent in Sane case is not enough; am glad he is gone and I was a big fan of the transfer from city
 

topt

Senior Member
True

Don't get me wrong, I do rate Diaz. But I would rather have a fit, available, fully motivated, prime Sane, even if he disappointed at times too. Feel the upside is higher. He could also play both sides.

However, as you say, a fit and available and motivated Sane is a pipedream, so better to bring in a player who is hungry and always available. Like they say, the best ability is availability (though you don't want a rubbish player who is always ready to play either as that is pointless).
this Leroy is long long gone
 

Tyler

Active member
damn anglosaxon,you sure you watch PL; Diaz had his best season last year

He scored more goals than previous seasons but he was part of a side that dominated the league. I watched him every week, and most weeks he flattered to decieve.

A fantastic bit of business for Liverpool to get close to 80 million for him. They've already got a 16 year old that will replace him. Cope better.
 

topt

Senior Member
He scored more goals than previous seasons but he was part of a side that dominated the league. I watched him every week, and most weeks he flattered to decieve.

A fantastic bit of business for Liverpool to get close to 80 million for him. They've already got a 16 year old that will replace him. Cope better
it was 70M and liverpool fans dont agree with you, go to their forum and read
 

Porque

Senior Member
SPORT have made a full heel turn on Laporta and Deco.

They are reporting the BILD story that Bayern had Diaz died up in June and that we never had a chance.
 

Tyler

Active member
it was 70M and liverpool fans dont agree with you, go to their forum and read

Most the Liverpool fans on the official forum haven't been to Anfield in their lives ffs.

Regardless, people have different opinions. But it would be madness to not take 75 million for a 29 year old that would be worth half of that in less than a couple of years time when his contract was up. Bayern would never have looked at him if they had signed Wirtz, who after all chose Liverpool over them. So Liverpool signed a better player with his best years ahead of him and sold a lesser player who's best years are behind him. Give it 6 months and Luis Diaz's Father will be in the media trying to tout him to Barcelona.
 

Titan98

Active member
Most the Liverpool fans on the official forum haven't been to Anfield in their lives ffs.

Regardless, people have different opinions. But it would be madness to not take 75 million for a 29 year old that would be worth half of that in less than a couple of years time when his contract was up. Bayern would never have looked at him if they had signed Wirtz, who after all chose Liverpool over them. So Liverpool signed a better player with his best years ahead of him and sold a lesser player who's best years are behind him. Give it 6 months and Luis Diaz's Father will be in the media trying to tout him to Barcelona.
But the fact that diaz was on very low wages (4 million in total gross per year) made him a very cheap option for liverpool on the LW position so it is important to get a high fee. For example ekitike is on 10 million gross if we mention him as an substitute. So luiz diaz would cost 4+8(50/6 amortisation) per year while ekitike costs 10+13 amortisation if he has a 6 year deal. So his sub is much more expensive but also younger. My own opinion is that Ekitike will flop like many of these strikers from the Bundesliga because the defense in German teams is very bad.

So it is a good deal for liverpool but it is not the greatest deal ever

Edit: i thik the 80-95 million deal for frankfurt is much better than diaz. In contrast julian alvarez was also as expensive but is world champion and a better striker (i think better than haaland also) so atletico made a great deal
 

topt

Senior Member
Most the Liverpool fans on the official forum haven't been to Anfield in their lives ffs.

Regardless, people have different opinions. But it would be madness to not take 75 million for a 29 year old that would be worth half of that in less than a couple of years time when his contract was up. Bayern would never have looked at him if they had signed Wirtz, who after all chose Liverpool over them. So Liverpool signed a better player with his best years ahead of him and sold a lesser player who's best years are behind him. Give it 6 months and Luis Diaz's Father will be in the media trying to tout him to Barcelona.
he he, you went from 80 to 75, in next post you willl be correct. You do understand Wirtz was x2 the price which Bayern would have never paid.
 

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