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FinBarcelonafan

FinBarcelonafan

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serghei said:
It's not like that if you do your homework. We didn't even lose money on Malcom, even though most would call him a failed transfer. I mean, yeah, you miss if you sign some absolute bum like Dest for 30-40m. But if you don't hit total flops, you usually get most of the money back if not bank a decent profit.

Basically, if you're skilled a bit, the best that can happen is you hit a home run, and the worst is a minor loss. With many that can land in the middle, player is not quite Barca material, but many teams will jump in and pay good money for him because he is still quality.

Happened with Sanchez and Malcom, two of the very few examples of young players signed in that price range (one from Serie A, and one from Ligue 1). We lost way more on overhyped flops that cost the club a huge amount.

Basically, you need a bit of discipline. 40-50 is good sum for a promising player of a young age that didn't prove himself at the top level yet, with low CL experience, not a starter for a high quality NT, those sort of metrics. As you approach 80m the player has to be dead on quality with multiple solid performances at the top level vs big teams, with CL or big league experience and so on.
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Great points but you forgot one thing, we need these players to perform instantly and we can't take another gamble before we have sold this. PSG can just buy another gamble and try again, instantly basically. It changes the game quite a bit.

So for us the biggest issue isn't even financial(at first), but failing on the field, then our team suffers and then other things.

It's the Chelsea model: PSG does it with brain now. Chelsea without brain. Chelsea buys literally anyone who is willing to join their team. :D
 
khaled_a_d

khaled_a_d

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serghei said:
Let's look at our resourcing of top talent from other leagues compared to Madrid. It's abysmal by comparison. Just because we have La Masia doesn't mean this kind of thing is good for us. The we wonder why our success is so much tied to La Masia top tier generations.

We have to be realistic and work on our issues. Especially now when we can't go at big clubs and buy their stars like we did with Suarez, Henry, and other players of the past.
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Real Madrid salary cap limits is 300M more than us, almost 170% of ours (looking at average between our September and February salary limits) and we don't even know if those numbers include old deferred wages (I say they don't, you were arguing they are included).

And this is the first season we were even higher than Atletico since Laporta took over.

When you are in such situation, you became risk averse. Plan and simple. You will miss on both good deals and busts.

Barca uses La Masia for talents, and get players they know they will succeed here, they will try to take a swing on some dirt cheap kids (Varela, Roony, Darvich,Faye and Araujo & Pedri back in the day).

The 30-40M best happens when you don't need the player, but you get them anyway, give them a platform to succeed without pressure. Barca isn't there yet, and unlikely to be there soon either.
 
Barcaman

Barcaman

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They are all riding high now on the back of Flick's work and (unexpected) success so maybe Deco and co got a bit too comfortable.

Won't be unhappy if they fail to bring that left winger as there are options in-house.
But I will be mad if they fail to strengthen the back-line.
Plenty of options there available.
 
Joan

Joan

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@khaled_a_d is right when it comes to deferred wages. They were booked in the 20-21 season and don’t count against the cap.

We cleaned the balance sheet but it has zero impact on the cap.
 
soul24rage

soul24rage

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Our scouting definitely needs to be improved, especially in South America. Our best transfer success in recent years came in these categories
- La Masia
- Free Transfers
- Players in retirement

We should try to focus on these categories first as much as we can.
 
Loki

Loki

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Barcaman said:
One week before pre-season and no outfitted signing.
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Garcia ? And the transfer window is just a week old, people need to relax. I understand that many look envious on how easy Madrid does its transfers, but you can't forget where the club is financially and under which ffp rules. Madrid has 300m more ffp margin than we do. This is a hardcore challenge for every sports director.

Deco managed to reduce the Masa Salarial by 200m, while keeping a competitive title contender squad at the same time. Fans don't appreciate this very fact enough. Deco isn't perfect, failed with Roque, but show me a sports director that doesn't fail? Who doesn't have one bad transfer?
 
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serghei

serghei

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Loki said:
Garcia ?
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He probably meant outfield.

He's right.

Garcia is a top signing for me. Just what we need. But what is the reason we are not signing a fullback? Makes zero sense considering our defense was swiss cheese vs Inter.

I want to know how the people responsible with squad planning arrive at the conclusion that fullback is not a priority for us? It's retarded.

LW back up is a fine position to chase if a player like Nico is a available for slightly under-market numbers. Now that is off the table, just sign a cheaper option who will still be a big upgrade over Fati and move to other positions we need players on.

CB and LB.
 
serghei

serghei

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Loki said:
Does the window close tonight ?
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No, but this doesn't stop other teams for making moves. Frimpong got signed for 35m. Great deal. 24 years of age. Would have been a top transfer for us. Really good.

We have several positions to improve. My gut is we are ignoring backline issues for some dumb reason. When the season start, we will leak goals again like crazy if we don't sign some players. LB/RB is needed. Probably both. This will allow Kounde to also be able to fill in at CB if we have an injury there. Frimpong - Kounde - Cubarsi - Balde is not too bad is it?
 
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Barcaman

Barcaman

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Loki said:
Garcia ? And the transfer window is just a week old, people need to relax. I understand that many look envious on how easy Madrid does its transfers, but you can't forget where the club is financially and under which ffp rules. Madrid has 300m more ffp margin than we do. This is a hardcore challenge for every sports director.

Deco managed to reduce the Masa Salarial by 200m, while keeping a competitive title contender squad at the same time. Fans don't appreciate this very fact enough. Deco isn't perfect, failed with Roque, but show me a sports director that doesn't fail? Who doesn't have one bad transfer?
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You said it yourself, our circumstances are more difficult. And were even more difficult. Deco knew it when he took the job so he must have felt confident and capable to work under those circumstances. I don't want to hear excuses. Either show that you can or move aside for someone that can.
 
khaled_a_d

khaled_a_d

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serghei said:
I want to know how the people responsible with squad planning arrive at the conclusion that fullback is not a priority for us? It's retarded.
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We have been linked with several fullbacks tbf, especially before the Nico Williams news popping up.

Now it is said that main target is Rashford, likely on loan, I think we will look at backline.

At least, this is my hope.

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It isn't a wishful thinking, though. As no one expected GK to be a priority, and yet Deco made it one and was our first signing. I think Deco knows the problems in the teams, how he addresses it needs to be seen
 
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