Iniesta Ultra
Senior Member
need to start an arms up "what the fuck you doing" count for each match
10 - Lamine Yamal
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BBZ8800
Senior Member
He has more dribbles due to "Neymar effect" wheh he gets the ball deep, dribbles past 3 players and he still has 8 opponents infront of him.
I guess that a majority of his dribbles this season are dribbles which have led to nothing.
Showboating-Neymaresque dribbles in the center of the field.
JamDav1982
Senior Member
You have as little clue as ever.
Didnt even think Yamal would make first team and looking to spout nonsense since.
His dribbles absolutely play a part in him and Barca being one the most effective attacks in Europe.
Neymar at Barca is one of the best wide players Barca ever had.
serghei
Senior Member
That is most of the reason why end product is where it's at for attackers. For a player like Yamal, who is not a big runner or a big workrate player off the ball, if he scores or makes a great assists, this usually comes after dribbling successfully in more key areas.
He didn't have impact in big games yet this season because of what you say. More showboating, less impact on the last third, more difficulty in him beating markers where it matters. He's also read better, blocked in smarter ways...
MonteCuler
Well-known member
How often do you even watch Barça games
What you described now, I don't know if you can single out 5 such instances this season
He doesn't even receive the ball so deep and when he does rarely goes on solo runs
ToranagaSama
Well-known member
Neymar was low IQ clown who declined early like almost all flashy Brazilian superstars once they made it and raked in money, fame and pussy but he was easily the closest complete player to Messi in terms of scoring, dribbling, creating and being clutch in big games. Can easily admit that despite generally disliking characters like that.
If you think players like Yamal and Neymar are shit at dribbling there is no serious discussion to be had. Then only Messi is a proper dribbler and no one else. Childish.
After conceding 4 goals in 45 minutes the last culprit on the entire team is the 18 year old winger.
If you think players like Yamal and Neymar are shit at dribbling there is no serious discussion to be had. Then only Messi is a proper dribbler and no one else. Childish.
After conceding 4 goals in 45 minutes the last culprit on the entire team is the 18 year old winger.
JamDav1982
Senior Member
He has had impact in big games.
Was Barcas best player v PSG in first half and would have had world class assist if Ferran finished.. also should have had Nunes sent off in second.
Against Chelsea Ferran sitter should have been Yamal assist early doors.
Against Real he produced pass of the match late on Kounde couldnt control the ball.
It is small margins and best players often about moments.
Was Barcas best player v PSG in first half and would have had world class assist if Ferran finished.. also should have had Nunes sent off in second.
Against Chelsea Ferran sitter should have been Yamal assist early doors.
Against Real he produced pass of the match late on Kounde couldnt control the ball.
It is small margins and best players often about moments.
serghei
Senior Member
Fans always see one side of the coin. Lamine Yamal must be the player who most turnovers in the entire league. I don't have the stats, but I'd be surprised if any player losses the ball more often than Lamine.
In the big games, the ratio is negative. He stands out more in possession losses and bad turnovers than in actions leading to goals. That's what seeing the games tells me.
It's not all bad, because he does create chances, but he makes many poor decisions leading to dangerous counters also. I understand this and is normal, but the ratio is not worth it for me so far.
In the big games, the ratio is negative. He stands out more in possession losses and bad turnovers than in actions leading to goals. That's what seeing the games tells me.
It's not all bad, because he does create chances, but he makes many poor decisions leading to dangerous counters also. I understand this and is normal, but the ratio is not worth it for me so far.
Horatio
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Most in league? You seriously believe that?
Lewandowski probably has him best already.
But it’s not going to prove much anyway.
MonteCuler
Well-known member
That's not really unusual for someone with his playstyle though?
JamDav1982
Senior Member
Utter nonsense.
He has been a big game player for Barca and intl level.
More so than any other Barca player.
Messi was the player that lost ball most for Barca I am sure...most of often the main creative player and one attack built around is.
JamDav1982
Senior Member
He doesnt like the fact Yamal is better than Raphinha.
Essentially what it comes down to.
serghei
Senior Member
No, but it's still a big negative. Even dribblers have to be subjected to productivity questions. Just because you can beat players doesn't mean you always have to try beating your man. For example 7/10 made dribbles with 3 turnovers is better than 10/18 with 8 turnovers.
Some fans don't care about turnovers and blame defenders. Maybe the defense wouldn't be as shit if some players wouldn't give the ball away so cheaply at times.
And another problem for Yamal is that not all his successful dribbles lead to dangerous actions because he overdoes it. If he makes a succession of 3 dribbles, 2 succeeded, and 1 failed, he made 2 dribbles but with 0 benefit for the team since at the 3rd dribble attempt he lost the ball.
JamDav1982
Senior Member
How do you gauge his productivity?
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