FinBarcelonafan
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And Bayern is actually in shape to run. We can press for max 25min and then rest of the game we try to continue it but never works because we are too tired. It's madness.
Hans-Dieter Flick
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We don’t need to look at Bayern to understand how to implement smart pressing. Flick could simply show the players videos of Barça from 2009 or 2015 to demonstrate how efficient off-the-ball pressing is done. That said, it’s also possible that Flick’s instructions are correct, but the players are struggling to execute them properly.
As @serghei demonstrated, the issue is not about fitness but rather the balance between effort and efficiency
As @serghei demonstrated, the issue is not about fitness but rather the balance between effort and efficiency
FinBarcelonafan
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It's issue of fitness too. Fitness to execute the plan.
serghei
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They have better conditions than us. More athletic players up front (harder workers on both wings and CAM), and their pressing is different. I really don't see Kane being pushed to make 37 high intensity pressing runs all the way from midfield to the keeper constantly like we ask of Ferran. He'd be spent and unable to do anything also, considering his age and his big frame. Nobody is a robot.
FinBarcelonafan
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Of course, but I think the point I am making the teams fitness level has dropped significantly from the last season. We were on level with the top teams, now we are clearly worse. It can be seen on everything, top speed, quickness, stamina etc. We are lacking in so many areas. We aren't even better physically than Bruges or any other lower tier team.
Last season we dominated not just with skills but physically.
serghei
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That's true. We need to find out the reason why that happens. And once you look at it, it's not hard to see where this comes from.
To start, you have Yamal and his injury, plus that now he thinks of himself as a star which is a separate issue. A weaker version in all aspects to last season's player.
Then you have missing Raphinha and having Rashford instead who is not even 1/3 of the pressing beast Raphinha is or was last season at least.
No 3, short squad leads to certain players being overplayed.
No 4, last season factors in too. It's much tougher to tie 2 back to back season at the same intensity level. Especially when you count argument No 3. No 3 + No 4 also lead to a spike in injuries.
No 5, Olmo's shite performances at CAM, much worse than lasst season.
No 6, the fact that you don't have any other plan means you need to put in a big shift in all games, no matter the opponent. It becomes tougher if high energy pressing is central to pretty much everything your style amounts to. Even likes of Elche or some other newly promoted side can cut through our defense at will if pressing is not top notch even in these "on paper" very easy games.
And there's probably more to it, losing Martinez in the backline plays a part also, Lewandowski 1 year older, not playing home games on Camp Nou which could have helped the team more in difficult moments, and so on.
It's gonna be a long season. Blaming the squad and the lack of transfers, meh, this was always a big constraint, and all of our managers suffered for it, all the way down to Koeman 4 years ago. This is not some sudden problem that appeared out of the blue to derail Flick. It is known and documented from the start due to Barcelona's most feared terrorist in history, Bartomeu.
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Temptation
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Flicky Blinders
PS: RL9 mogs as usual.
PS: RL9 mogs as usual.
Fati_Future_BallonDor
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yo @KingLeo10 chill, you make too many Posts about Tempt every day, it pollute the forum too much
Fati_Future_BallonDor
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Some facts about our Hansi:
Since taking over the reins, Flick’s Barcelona have registered 36 victories out of 49 league fixtures, equating to an impressive win rate of 73.5%.
In terms of goal output, Barcelona have scored 130 goals under Flick in La Liga, while conceding 52, a positive goal difference of 78.
Regardless of how the Celta clash ends, Flick will sit fifth in Barcelona’s all-time La Liga rankings for managers with at least 50 games, having collected a minimum of 113 points.
Only Luis Enrique (124 points), Xavi (118), Pep Guardiola (117), and Ernesto Valverde (117) stand ahead.
Luis Enrique still leads the pack with 40 wins, 4 draws, and 6 losses in his first 50 matches, a benchmark Flick will be eager to chase.
Since taking over the reins, Flick’s Barcelona have registered 36 victories out of 49 league fixtures, equating to an impressive win rate of 73.5%.
In terms of goal output, Barcelona have scored 130 goals under Flick in La Liga, while conceding 52, a positive goal difference of 78.
Regardless of how the Celta clash ends, Flick will sit fifth in Barcelona’s all-time La Liga rankings for managers with at least 50 games, having collected a minimum of 113 points.
Only Luis Enrique (124 points), Xavi (118), Pep Guardiola (117), and Ernesto Valverde (117) stand ahead.
Luis Enrique still leads the pack with 40 wins, 4 draws, and 6 losses in his first 50 matches, a benchmark Flick will be eager to chase.
RedxMAK
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How does Xavi have higher points than Pep Guardiola?????????????????????????????
Fati_Future_BallonDor
Humble guy
… the comparisons to his time at FC Bayern Munich, where the second season was also less strong:
jairzinho
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Xavi and Valgreen haramball was something else.
BusiTheKing
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Given that people identify Flick's current style with how he set up his Bayern team, it surprises me that that team is not on this list. Didn't really watch them play. Is what we're seeing now a further radicalized version of what he tried there? Ballsy move to double down on the approach that eventually broke your team.
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