Camp Nou

[FinBarcelonafan]

The finance department assures that the Montjuic stadium, with approximately 50,000 spectators, generates the same revenue as a Spotify Camp Nou stadium with 27,000, so progress in processing the licenses for the opening in the next phase is necessary in order to obtain higher revenues in the last quarter of the year and early 2026.

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Would have been nice if they realised this before the start of the season so that we could have avoided the losses of playing at the Johan Cruyff.

Which if Camp Nou provides roughly double the profit of Montjuic at half capacity, suggests we lost the profit of around 66000 seat sales across three games at the JC.

How the hell they figured this out only now? Planning? Budgeting? They didn't find out anything before??

 

[Don Juan Laporta Estruch]

The finance department assures that the Montjuic stadium, with approximately 50,000 spectators, generates the same revenue as a Spotify Camp Nou stadium with 27,000, so progress in processing the licenses for the opening in the next phase is necessary in order to obtain higher revenues in the last quarter of the year and early 2026.

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Would have been nice if they realised this before the start of the season so that we could have avoided the losses of playing at the Johan Cruyff.

Which if Camp Nou provides roughly double the profit of Montjuic at half capacity, suggests we lost the profit of around 66000 seat sales across three games at the JC.

The fact that we can generate around a billion Euros in revenue playing at Montjuic is incredible.

Things are never linear, but just as a rough estimate, we will average at least 81,000 fans at the Nou Camp Nou, infact it will probably be around the 88 - 90k mark.

I've used 81k because it is exactly 3 times the 27,000 figure quoted as generating the same revenue as a full Montjuic. So, potentially we will increase match day revenue 3 fold when the new stadium is fully open for business. That is extraordinary.

I'm not sure how big a percentage match day revenues are as a total of all our revenues, but match day revenues are the main source of income for a football club.

So just, as a conservative estimate, our yearly revenues should increase to at least 1.5 billion and potentially much more in our new stadium. For the record, Madrid's yearly revenue in the first year of their new stadium was a mere 1.185 billion, which is a record.

In short,

 

[TheStig]

A very big part of that additional income will go towards paying the debt that building the stadium created so I don't think our financial situation will be that much better just because of CN.

 

[jamrock]

A very big part of that additional income will go towards paying the debt that building the stadium created so I don't think our financial situation will be that much better just because of CN.

Even after paying for the stadium we will be net positive of around 70m.

It's just basic math on that one.

 

[TheStig]

We don't know that (yet). We don't even now how much the stadium will cost, I'm sure some are in for a big surprise.

 

[jamrock]

These types of projections have been made on every single large stadium project in the world and is right the vast majority of times

It's simple math, even with potential cost over runs.

The cost of the stadium is known.
The interest rate is known and will only go down in the future.
Revenue projections are a simple thing.

But it's laporta do nah math doesn't work anymore?

 

[TheStig]

The cost of the stadium is known.

No it's not and all the other things are linked to it.

 

[Windhook]

The cost of the stadium is an estimate. The market value of construction materials is not fixed and unfortunately post-Ukraine invasion prices are only going up in most of goods.

 

[jamrock]

Barcelona secured a 1.5b euros loan to build the stadium, that's what all projections are based on.

Construct materials increase, but that's cost on the clubs books for the project is 1.5B and that's the number until something changes, which will require them to get additional funding, nothing like that has happen as of today. 10/8/2025, two years into construction

 

[Loki]

The cost of the stadium is an estimate. The market value of construction materials is not fixed and unfortunately post-Ukraine invasion prices are only going up in most of goods.

Limak agreed to a maximum cost, a number Barca won't and can't cross. That was the most important part for Barca to choose a construction company and only Limak was ready to agree to it. The simple fact is, that Barca don't have more money to spend. They got the 1.5b loan and they have to build the entire espai barca with it.

Their reason to agree to this risk is, because they want to push into the European market as a farily new construction company and the Camp Nou gives them much publicity.

 

[Barcaman]

The cost of the stadium is an estimate. The market value of construction materials is not fixed and unfortunately post-Ukraine invasion prices are only going up in most of goods.

"Post-Ukraine invasion"

Inflation started and is massively due to that flu bullshit and printing of money that ensued. I can't believe you are eating up Putin bad wolf stuff.

 

[Windhook]

I don't know about this maximum cost, sounds like the delay penalty Limak promised that's been thrown around from time to time.

Real Madrid had to take a 400m loan to finish Bernabeu's renovation last year. Initially it was estimated to cost 1.3b.

 

[serghei]

They will just built the Camp Nou and say we don't have money to build the Palau because cost went up. Or they will do a cheaper version.

 

[jamrock]

They will just built the Camp Nou and say we don't have money to build the Palau because cost went up. Or they will do a cheaper version.

Something like this is possible.

 

[Windhook]

"Post-Ukraine invasion"

Inflation started and is massively due to that flu bullshit and printing of money that ensued. I can't believe you are eating up Putin bad wolf stuff.

Prices after the flu pandemic went down in construction. My company initiated this construction project in late 2021 estimated at 300k euros and when finished the final cost in spring of 2023 was 450k.

Operational costs skyrocketed due to Russian oil embargo during that period. Not to mention the price of fertilizers, which have doubled since Ukraine invasion.