JamDav1982
Senior Member
The doctors job for Spain is to get him out on the pitch and performing if he can.
That is the reality.
Even if it is wrong for Barca.
The players absolutely have a big say whether can play or not.
10 - Lamine Yamal
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The doctors job for Spain is to get him out on the pitch and performing if he can.
That is the reality.
Even if it is wrong for Barca.
The players absolutely have a big say whether can play or not.
Co0ter
Senior Member
Not subbing a player when they aren't injured vs when they are injured are two completely different things. Making up a stupid argument just to shit on Flick. Come on now.
jamrock
Senior Member
The point is, he doesn't sub players when games are won to prevent fatigue and muscle overload injuries, see balde and kounde last season.
Did I really need to spell that out for you coot?, I expect better even from you.
Or is it that you're denying that flick doesn't make subs when games are well won, to minimize the chances of his players pickup injuries.
He has no argument to tell a coach to sub a player at any point in a game, if the coach believes the player is fit to play, which DLF did, rightly or wrongly.
Elementary stuff.
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TheStig
Member
You guys are too emotional to look at it from DLF point of view. He played his best player in two important matches and won them, Lamine will be back until the next international match so it all worked out great for him. I don't like it but I get it.
He doesn't care about Barca and Flick doesn't really deserve to complain if he also plays Yamal all the time, even when we have 3+ goals lead.
He doesn't care about Barca and Flick doesn't really deserve to complain if he also plays Yamal all the time, even when we have 3+ goals lead.
jamrock
Senior Member
Exactly
jamrock
Senior Member
If he had just stopped at he played him while he was injured,I would have supported him fully, as I did in my first post.
But taking about subs after 3 goals leads, fuck outta here with that, when he makes subs while we were leading we would likely have our starting LB in the CL SF.
But taking about subs after 3 goals leads, fuck outta here with that, when he makes subs while we were leading we would likely have our starting LB in the CL SF.
Nello
Member
I think this is overly simplified.
If it was a WC, sure thing. If not then no, the job of the doctors/physios is to take care of the athletes' health and not only care about their performance, luckily most of the time go hand in hand as enhancing their health will help them perform.
In this particular situation, WC qualifiers that Spain won convincingly, I understand Flick's anger.
De La fuente has a history of doing this now, absolutely running Pedri into the ground first at the olympics, and then playing a visibly exhausted and very young Gavi in a meaningless game.
Also as a physio, I would never put the responsinbility on a 18 year old player, no matter how big a superstar he is.
It's Lamine's responsibility to report the pain and tell how he feels sure, but he obviously doesn't have the medical expertise to examine or know wether that pain could be a sign of a significant injury or not.
The Spanish NT staff was clearly aware of the pain, hence giving him pain killers and not letting him train. If they deem it too serious for him to train, then there's no excuse to play him unless it's an incredibly important match worth risking your health for. It wasn't.
Rumours are vague, but only that it's pain from the pubic bone. I've got no way of knowing whats up with him, but most groin injuries aren't easy to deal with. And given his age, I'd be catious with that area in particular knowing that's when the growth plates of the pubic bone are open (14-20 approx., with most injuries happening at 16-18).
Anyways, fuck De La Fuente and the Spanish NT, they should treat their young players better.
Nello
Member
Don't think Flick is playing players on painkillers, that aren't able to train, when we are ahead.
Messi983
Senior Member
Should also arrest Bumsi while they are at it.
soul24rage
Senior Member
Nicole, De La Fraud, Hansi in that order
Messi983
Senior Member
Un fisio del Barça trata a Lamine en la Selección
Fernando Galán trata al jugador en el equipo azulgrana y en La Roja
www.marca.com
lol
Raketa10
Senior Member
Exactly! He could have easily requested to be rested or even subbed during the first game. Stupid kid...hopefully he will learn after this.
delancey
Senior Member
He’s an 18 year old kid. If Doctors are giving him painkillers and then giving him the go ahead to play, do you expect a teenager to question that authority? Also, boi was on pain killers. He wouldn’t have known he was in pain until after the pain killers wore off.
100 % on Doctors and the Manager.
100 % on Doctors and the Manager.
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