14 - Marcus Rashford

Messi983

Senior Member
He will have to hustle harder for me to be convinced.

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iniestaGOAT

Senior Member
I wouldn't say great, but better than expected. Looked fit and had a good pace. Flick didn't field him with the first team, so we need to wait and see how he does there. Maybe at Gamper with Rapha on the 10.

Rapinha can never be a no 10. He can't even pass the ball
If anything that position is meant for yamal in the future with rapinha rw
 

MonteCuler

Well-known member
NYC? He's dressed up like he's in Alaska

But before we judge, remember Rashy is bri'ish. Maybe he heard it's close to Canada and decided not to fuck around
 

Maradona37

Well-known member
He will turn up in the big games, I would almost guarantee it, he always did for a garbage United side. The question is will the mentality be there to do it week-in, week-out when he's called upon, when it's less glamorous.
I have said it many times - that's a tactical quirk. He scores against good teams (and is invisible outside of the moments) because they defend high and let him use his speed in behind, which is one of his few weapons. So many of his goals against Arsenal, Man City etc come from running in behind, or his once in a blue moon thunderbolt shot.

Equally, he's poor against smaller teams because they defend deep and deny him the space he so desperately needs. He's horrendously poor in tight spaces because he has very scrappy ball control. He's the archetypal Man United player in that he's all about pace and space.

It has little to do with 'mentality'. It's tactics. It's pretty obvious.
 

Maradona37

Well-known member
As expected he is turning to a great player after leaving the hopeless club Manu.

Be excited guys, we still didnt see the Rashy in final form 💯
Is this a joke? Nobody with an iota puts any stock in pre-season. It's about building fitness, nothing more. Loads of teams look great in pre-season and then start the season awfully (including this guy's parent club). This is something any experienced football watcher should know.
 

Maradona37

Well-known member
I think Ferguson's time at United completely warped the shit out of that Club and the fanbase and the insane expectations. Before Ferguson, they only had 7 First Division titles, and Matt Busby won 5 of those plus two FA cups and their one and only European cup(CL).

After Busby's time, they would never win a league title nor CL title until Ferguson in 1991-2 which was 25 years later and didn't win a CL again until the 1997-8 season.

In the grand scheme of things it's not all that unusual to see teams like United go through years of success and fall off for long periods of time as there were other teams in England who were on a tear most notably Liverpool and other teams who had won titles like Arsenal, Everton, Forest, Leeds and Villa in 1980-81.

Ferguson was an anomaly in terms of longevity. He spent 20+ years managing United and winning a lot. United are in that awkward era like what happened between Busby and Ferguson. The question is will they ever pull out of it? time will tell.
Correct, said all this before. His and Busby's times are outliers in their history. They are reverting to the norm now but think they deserve eternal success cos of the 90s.
 

Maradona37

Well-known member
That club is just clueless. Rashford and Bruno, by far the best players they had in the last decade imo.
Disagree and your comment seems the type from someone who doesn't watch United regularly and goes by media hype. I watch all their games and see the basic mistakes these two make throughout and how they are just moments players who make little real tangible difference in terms of football success, as evidenced by the sheer failure of the club..

The pair of them force United to play that clueless, counter-attack hero ball (though United have always been a less advanced, rudimentary football team who rely on crosses, countering rather than possession).

Fernandes is one of their biggest problems for me. A complete fraud of a footballer. A percentage playing Hollywood ball merchant with zero composure or impulse control, more interested in his stats than playing intelligently. The anti David Silva.

He will be a massive problem this season too with them shoehorning him in a midfield two most of the time and the idiot treating the ball like a grenade all the time again. It's a car crash waiting to happen. Only those idiots would reject 100m for him just to play him in a midfield two.

Without sounding arrogant or pretentious, Fernandes is the type of footballer worshipped by those with a less evolved understanding of the game. I certainly wouldn't expect Barca fans to rate him as he's as far away from a Barcelona style player as one can be.
 
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serghei

Senior Member
Wrong, they played hero ball regardless of them, actually to the disadvantage of those players. The idea is that somehow Rashford and Bruno demanded this is nonsensical. They just pinned the pressure to their best players, that was Rashford at first, then Bruno.

You don't need much more proof than United's last train-wreck of a season while Rashford wasn't even there.
 

Maradona37

Well-known member
Wrong, they played hero ball regardless of them, actually to the disadvantage of those players.
Saying I am wrong doesn't mean I am. You just don't watch them play, it's apparently obvious.

It's not to their disadvantage at all, you clearly haven't got a clue about them. They indulge Fernandes to levels other teams would never which is why everything goes through him and he's allowed to try a million risky passes a game. They're a moments team. If Fernandes played for City or a possession team he'd stick out like a sore thumb with his poorness in tight spaces and inability to keep the football.

Anyway, whatever you say, it clearly doesn't work, because they just finished 15th.

Also, Fernandes was wank before Xmas this season.

I clearly know much more about English football than you do and watch it much more. You're a Spanish football fan who watches United once in a blue moon, don't deny it pal.
 

Tyler

Active member
Disagree and your comment seems the type from someone who doesn't watch United regularly and goes by media hype. I watch all their games and see the basic mistakes these two make throughout.

The pair of them force United to play that clueless, counter-attack hero ball (though United have always been a less advanced, rudimentary football team who rely on crosses, countering rather than possession).

Fernandes is one of their biggest problems for me. A complete fraud of a footballer. A percentage playing Hollywood ball merchant with zero composure or impulse control, more interested in his stats than playing intelligently. The anti David Silva.

He will be a massive problem this season too with them shoehorning him in a midfield two most of the time and the idiot treating the ball like a grenade all the time again. It's a car crash waiting to happen. Only those idiots would reject 100m for him just to play him in a midfield two.

You're absolutely right about Fernandes. I've never seen such a wasteful player. Now and again something comes off for him, but he shouldn't be forgiven for all the times he handed possession to the opposition or whacked the ball into Row Z. And on top off that he's awful tactically too. He works hard enough but he just runs about like a headless chicken, and then loses his shit at other players, or the referee, when he should be looking at himself. United will never have any balance to their team while he remains in the starting 11.
 

Maradona37

Well-known member
You're absolutely right about Fernandes. I've never seen such a wasteful player. Now and again something comes off for him, but he shouldn't be forgiven for all the times he handed possession to the opposition or whacked the ball into Row Z. And on top off that he's awful tactically too. He works hard enough but he just runs about like a headless chicken, and then loses his shit at other players, or the referee, when he should be looking at himself. United will never have any balance to their team while he remains in the starting 11.
Exactly.

That's another thing clueless people say about him 'he works so hard' - he runs about like an idiot leaving gaps all over the place. Work smarter, not harder.

But of course serghei knows best, watching United 5 times a season :lol:
 

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