Club World Cup

soul24rage

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Argentina's RB has a been a weakness so far so excited to see how Giay does against a Champions League opposition in Chelsea.
 

Birdy

Senior Member
Fluminense hard to crack.
Chelsea - Fluminense will be a great SF. Chelsea still the favorites
A chelsea-PSG final is possible
 

Birdy

Senior Member
- So you are basing all of Messi's level based on 1 game only against PSG, the European Champions? With that logic, then someone like Bastoni wouldn't hack it vs top oppositions anymore since his team got blown away 5-0 against the same opponent. I'm basing everything about his level in that one game.

- For Dribble, with that logic, Busquets would be high up there because he can retain the ball by avoiding the opponent.

- For Shooting under pressure, I have no idea what you want. You need to be a lot more specific. You want this? This is a goal vs Lloris a couple of months ago


Eye test, stats, general consensus vs PSG all indicate that he has shown the level to compete at the highest level, even playing when injured throughout the tournament to which this point is conveniently ignored constantly. If you can't see that, to which I don't think you will ever do, then I can't help you at all. At this point, you are getting incredibly nitpicky trying to find little things here and there.

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- I wanted to see Messi against top opposition. Did not need to be PSG in particular. Any of Barca, Bayern, Liverpool, Madrid, Arsenal, Inter, City, etc. would have been fine as well

- it's not my logic, it's how dribbles are calculated by stat companies

- this goal you post is an easy one for Messi. Open vision to the goal, defenders all over the place.

- sofascore ratings say nothing. They do not constitute any objective metric.

- 'general consensus' which means among Messi fanboys. Thanks, I am not buying.

- The opposite of what you say, it seems that you (and others) are nitpicking ('oh he made that pass there, he scored that goal here', etc.) without seeing the bigger picture. The bigger picture is he won't be able to compete among Europe's elite, and the PSG game showed that pretty much
 

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