Champions League 2024-25

Who will win?


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RedxMAK

Well-known member
Bro the last time Barcelona lost to a team in the semis that ended up losing the final was 2000. Against Valencia…
How did they get dog walked by Madrid in that final????
Madrid barely survived Bayern and I don’t think they were the favourites considering Valencia were on pretty great form in that UCL season.
 

Horatio

You're welcome
Yep, I honestly can't believe Horatio just said that.

If we are rating players solely on box to box this season.

Pedri who is already the best in Europe, will only build a bigger lead, he doesn't look as energetic and dynamic while doing it, which is why some may have gotten confused.

What vitinha is better as is quick one twos, he passes the ball then immediately runs/sprints to the next best position.

Super dynamic, while also have incredible technique.
lol…you basically explained my point. Vitinha indeed more dynamic, as in moves more. And faster as pedri “doesnt look as energetic”

Maybe you were just backpeddling.
 

vegitot

Senior Member
He's totally right. It's not a matter of KMs but a matter of pace. Pedri is a slower player. He maybe runs more, but runs at a slower pace. Vitinha is very quick, and creative in his own right in a less flairy more snappy way.

Pedri is more technical, but it's very close between them.
Horatio stated that Pedri can't run up and down because he has bad stamina. That's the thing.

Yeah Vitinha is quicker, but not as good.
 

jamrock

Senior Member
lol…you basically explained my point. Vitinha indeed more dynamic, as in moves more.

No I didn't, I explained what he's good at.

Not him being a better box to box, those things don't make him a better box to box.

But he might look like one to the untrained eye.

I get why you were confused, honestly.
 

Horatio

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Horatio stated that Pedri can't run up and down because he has bad stamina. That's the thing.

Yeah Vitinha is quicker, but not as good.
Where did I state that?

But yeah, Vitinha looks to have better stamina. Happy to be proven wrong.
 

Temptation

Well-known member
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Jesus Christ this is a horrible take.
But you believe that Dutch dude is better than pedri, so I don't expect any better.

Every time you take 1 step forward, you take 2 steps back .
Nah. Never said Gravenberch is better than Pedri. Infact I clearly said Pedri is a better player because this is the first season Gravenberch has performed well in a top league. You can go back to those posts and check. I never rate players' overall careers based on 6 great months.

All I said was in December/January that Gravenberch has been the best mid itw this season which was true back then. Then his performances dropped slightly while Pedri's stayed consistent throughout the season.

Quit lying. :lol:
 

jamrock

Senior Member
Nah. Never said Gravenberch is better than Pedri. Infact I clearly said Pedri is a better player because this is the first season Gravenberch has performed well in a top league. You can go back to those posts and check. I never rate players' overall careers based on 6 great months.

All I said was in December/January that Gravenberch has been the best mid itw this season which was true back then. Then his performances dropped slightly while Pedri's stayed consistent throughout the season.

Quit lying. :lol:

😂.

People won't admit he's better than pedri because pedri as been seen as a golden child or some BS like that.
 

serghei

Senior Member
Both Barca and PSG midfield are top quality midfields that would work for each manager. The difference between Barca and PSG is biggest at number 9 and in back 5. I'd take all of PSG's players in defense, from both fullbacks to both CBs even + Dembele. PSG's fullbacks are best in the world for me.

There's a big difference between the players PSG have in defense + the speed and pace Dembele offers compared to Lewandowski. Especially this version of Dembele who even presses like a machine.
 

KingLeo10

Senior Member
Both Barca and PSG midfield are top quality midfields that would work for each manager. The difference between Barca and PSG is biggest at number 9 and in back 5. I'd take all of PSG's players in defense, from both fullbacks to both CBs even + Dembele.

There's a big difference between the players PSG have in defense + the speed and pace Dembele offers compared to Lewandowski. Especially this version of Dembele who even presses like a machine.
Nah the CBs from both teams are all bang average to good at best.

The fullbacks are another story though. And Dembele is better at 9 than Lewa.
 

Temptation

Well-known member
Thank you for confirming you're an idiot relating to football.

He would easily play for us.
Ofcourse he could play for Barca and do well. That wasn't the point. He's class.

The point was that Ruiz Vitinha Neves midfield isn't as optimal for Flickball as Pedri FDJ Olmo at its best.
 

serghei

Senior Member
Nah the CBs from both teams are all bang average to good at best.

The fullbacks are another story though. And Dembele is better at 9 than Lewa.

I think the CBs of PSG are better personally. I didn't see that Pacho guy lose any markers today like Araujo did. Nowhere near even.
 

Birdy

Senior Member
Both Barca and PSG midfield are top quality midfields that would work for each manager. The difference between Barca and PSG is biggest at number 9 and in back 5. I'd take all of PSG's players in defense, from both fullbacks to both CBs even + Dembele. PSG's fullbacks are best in the world for me.

There's a big difference between the players PSG have in defense + the speed and pace Dembele offers compared to Lewandowski. Especially this version of Dembele who even presses like a machine.

No, there are differences in md as well.
Olmo couldn't play in PSG's midfield at all, in how Enrique wants to play.
Maybe as false 9, but never in md
 

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