Hans-Dieter Flick

Hansi Flick - how do we rate him?


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DonAK

President of FC Barcelona
I know it won't happen due to our finances, but while a versatile FB and a LW is a must, I think they really need to look at the market for strikers as well because it seems like multiple teams will be looking to sign one and the market might be dry in 2026.

And with how great Lamine and how dangerous Raphinha's crossing can be, you ideally want an athletic, physical taller ST who can get at the end of those crosses and really make those CBs uncomfortable.

Like what is the chance a 37 year old Lewandowski next season can repeat the performances of this year? The odds are heavily on him declining even further.
 

serghei

Senior Member
Even if the finances are shite, a CB and a good fullback are an absolute must. We just can't do without.

Also, we have 3 players who need to disappear from this team as soon as possible. Stegen, Araujo, and Ansu Fati. We need to make the next step in our squad management and be ruthless, or we'll suffer fiascos like last night again.

This time it wasn't Stegen, but his chief deputy kicked in and did the job done instead. Then you look at what Sommer and Acerbi did. Two players nobody rated much. Sommer cost 5m :lol:.
 

freetocan

Member
Honestly, it's going to be hard. Flick needs better players, alot of them but we don't have the money.
We're going to have to do some expert scouting and see if we can get some bargains or younger players on the cheap. We need a proper, physical DM for the CL and a great keeper and CB TOO. That defensive spine is absolutely crucial in Europe. That's three players there. Not to mention at least one full back and a proper striker.
Fully agree and I would add that players salary should properly adjusted making some room for new addition to the team. It is totally unacceptable players like Flopski to get 32/ 26 m Euro/ year and Lamine 1.5 m year.!!!!!!
 

jamrock

Senior Member
The Inter equaliser was at what, the 93 minute though? And up until then Inter were pretty non threatening. In fact on either side of that Lamine hits the post, and then after the goal, Lamine misses the one on one.

For the goal off of the Sommer long ball, Cubarsi effectively clears the ball and is pushed in the air by Thuram. Not called.

Then Martin pauses for half a second meaning he doesn't receive the ball first to easily deal with it. Then he falls over/gets fouled and goes down. Claims he is fouled and not reviewed in VAR.

Then Araujo gets beaten to a simple cross by an Old Man.

There's nothing in the above that says we closed the match wrongly. There's nothing that says that even if we played defensively, that Inter wouldn't have capitalised on a late long ball either. Especially when infractions are not called and then defenders like Martin slip/fouled and Araujo doesn't react to the man he is marking.

Extra time, different story. Even then, the winning goal was mostly down to huge defensive errors (Araujo loses Thuram which should never happen, and then runs and stands directly behind Cubarsi in a dead position instead of trying to reach the man on the ball. Just why!?) . And even then Lewandowski misses a goal he would usually score in his sleep (and to be fair he tried to score in his sleep by closing his eyes!), and Sommer made about 3 very good stops in that period.

And after going 4-3 we can't judge defense on the last 20 minutes anyways as tactics go out the window needing a goal.

Everything about the above said we closed out the match incorrectly, because none of that needed to happen.

you can't win a game more than it's already won, GD doesn't matter in a K.O game ffs


Keep the ball and bounce it around

Get on the break go to the flag.

All else fails, sit back and defend, if they score a wordie good for them.

99.9% chance, with 5 minutes left the game is over.
 

serghei

Senior Member
Yes, but you rarely have it both ways. As said, his uncompromising offensive style is what allowed the team to become this strong offensively. The normal fix is to let Flick chase his quest of playing his brand of football, which coincides in many ways to what Barca fans love to see, and use signings to replace the bums who constantly fail him individually in defense.

Tonight, only Araujo did that 100% of the time almost. The only player in this team last night who only did damage without anything to help the team was Araujo. Betrayed Flick big time, like bums usually do to the ones who make the mistake of trusting them.

Olmo fecked up at the 1st goal, but then came back and scored a nice diving header to make it 2-2. Martin made errors, but then washed his sins away with 2 great crosses.

You can make errors, and it's fine, we play a risky football, and we can accept players making errors under pressure. But when you come in to do a job, you are a captain, and all the fucking time you do the exact opposite, there's no excuse. Simply none.
 

Temptation

Well-known member
Then you look at what Sommer and Acerbi did. Two players nobody rated much. Sommer cost 5m :lol:.
Umm anyone who has followed Serie A and Bundesliga knew these guys were great players.

Sommer cost 5 mil because he's 36.

I told people before the game that Sommer is one of the best GKs itw and Acerbi is an underrated gem. Acerbi is what people think Inigo is. People abused me for these takes.

I'm not saying I predicted something crazy. Not at all. Anyone who has some knowledge on Italian Football knows how good these players are.
 

jamrock

Senior Member
There are no guarantees in knockout football. History has shown us that we aren’t Madrid, who seem to fan voodoo their way to back-to-back finals. Even at our best, we were never capable of that.

So, I don’t subscribe to the idea that we will be back bigger and stronger.

This was a golden opportunity, and we failed to execute in the final five minutes.

We can be both proud of the team, the coach, and the way they played—because they went out fighting, unlike with **mister**. This time, we went out our way.

But we also messed up. Two things can be true at the same time.

For all the talk of us being better, we were ahead for only six minutes over two legs. We had to fight that hard for our superiority to shine through, and then we threw it away in the end.

You can only ask your attackers to do so much. At some point, you need to be tactically smart and do the simplest thing in football—defend.

You team so they can learn from this and maybe yamal can get to 2 or 3 CL in his entire career.
 

serghei

Senior Member
We are simply a different club to Madrid, who basically have no style whatsoever and even managed to lose possession to Atletico Madrid in a CL final :lol:. It's just that at times we shouldn't be that extreme about it, that's all. But us being adamant about playing our type of football even with so much on the line is why we are a legendary club like no other.

It's a complicated subject, but we can all agree that winning while playing the football we love playing is the best thing there is. Nothing comes close.
 
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Gaudi

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i don't think our CB pair in Inigo and Cubarsi can get much improvement, our defensive game needs to change, not our defensive pair. I just read on barcacentre that in those dying only 3 players were in the box.
 

zanela

Senior Member
This guy fucking sucks dick,
Get Luis Enrique

The man who's building a proper team and watch Lamine cook

Some of you are delusional. Lucho is working with limitless resources. In his first season he was given Dembele, Barcola, Muani, G. Ramos (~250 m€), in his second season he got João Neves, Pacho, Doué, Pacho, Kvara (~250 m€). Thats half a billion spent in two seasons alone. Even with all these players it took him 1.5 seasons to really get going.

To suggest that Lucho would have got us performing better or winning more with our limited squad and no budget is devoid of any rationale or sensibile thinking. Add to that, he's a strong character and would get into disagreements with the Board when he doesn't get his way. The moment things go south, he will head out of PSG, you can be sure of that.

Peope still don't appreciate what Flick has achieved this season with what he was given. Imagine having to do this season with Eric, Martin, a brain-dead Araujo, retired GK, and other sub par players (whose names who I won't even mention), and a "new signing" who's perenially injured. People wouldn't even have'd chance to become "experts" if our team hadn't made this far in the first place.
Imagine PSG having to play against Inter without Hakimi, Nunez and Dembélé at sansiro. You can't objectively and confidently tell me that they would have passed the test. But continue glorifying Lucho's PSG, there may yet be a surprise awaiting tonight.
 

serghei

Senior Member
Some of you are delusional. Lucho is working with limitless resources. In his first season he was given Dembele, Barcola, Muani, G. Ramos (~250 m€), in his second season he got João Neves, Pacho, Doué, Pacho, Kvara (~250 m€). Thats half a billion spent in two seasons alone. Even with all these players it took him 1.5 seasons to really get going.

To suggest that Lucho would have got us performing better or winning more with our limited squad and no budget is devoid of any rationale or sensibile thinking. Add to that, he's a strong character and would get into disagreements with the Board when he doesn't get his way. The moment things go south, he will head out of PSG, you can be sure of that.

Peope still don't appreciate what Flick has achieved this season with what he was given. Imagine having to do this season with Eric, Martin, a brain-dead Araujo, retired GK, and other sub par players (whose names who I won't even mention), and a "new signing" who's perenially injured. People wouldn't even have'd chance to become "experts" if our team hadn't made this far in the first place.
Imagine PSG having to play against Inter without Hakimi, Nunez and Dembélé at sansiro. You can't objectively and confidently tell me that they would have passed the test. But continue glorifying Lucho's PSG, there may yet be a surprise awaiting tonight.

Spot on.
 

serghei

Senior Member
i don't think our CB pair in Inigo and Cubarsi can get much improvement, our defensive game needs to change, not our defensive pair. I just read on barcacentre that in those dying only 3 players were in the box.

We won't change our plan to make it easier for CBs. And they won't really get improvement, just a masking of their issues. They will just get more players next to them to help out when they fuck up. Nothing will improve Araujo for example except someone closer to clean up his mess.

Said it before the match also. We lack a player of reliable individual quality in defense. Araujo is a bum, Inigo is good, but not great, and Cubarsi plays his age with the big errors that are typical for a low experience CB.

Fit Christensen would have been a big help.
 

BJJ

Well-known member
Some of you are delusional. Lucho is working with limitless resources. In his first season he was given Dembele, Barcola, Muani, G. Ramos (~250 m€), in his second season he got João Neves, Pacho, Doué, Pacho, Kvara (~250 m€). Thats half a billion spent in two seasons alone. Even with all these players it took him 1.5 seasons to really get going.

To suggest that Lucho would have got us performing better or winning more with our limited squad and no budget is devoid of any rationale or sensibile thinking. Add to that, he's a strong character and would get into disagreements with the Board when he doesn't get his way. The moment things go south, he will head out of PSG, you can be sure of that.

Peope still don't appreciate what Flick has achieved this season with what he was given. Imagine having to do this season with Eric, Martin, a brain-dead Araujo, retired GK, and other sub par players (whose names who I won't even mention), and a "new signing" who's perenially injured. People wouldn't even have'd chance to become "experts" if our team hadn't made this far in the first place.
Imagine PSG having to play against Inter without Hakimi, Nunez and Dembélé at sansiro. You can't objectively and confidently tell me that they would have passed the test. But continue glorifying Lucho's PSG, there may yet be a surprise awaiting tonight.


Great, great post. Alot of people seem to forget that we started the season with a whole bunch of injuries and had to play kids. Signed an always injured Olmo and a mediocre Pau.

For me we absolutely need to sign a new CB. Inigo is old and Cubarsi needs competition. Christensen and maybe Araujo will be sold.
Speaking about Araujo, why didn't that fecker get himself sent off? If he had, we would have sat back and maybe edged the tie. We've done it before. That clown has the worst timing.
 

freetocan

Member
Thank you. He is the alterago of Messigician. Its so glaringly obvious. I noticed that you are more lenient against troll posters now than you were earlier. Perhaps father time has mellowed you down. :) But It would be nice to have some meaningful moderation so that low iq posting is discouraged and the quality of the forum is maintained.
I fully agree. There is still room for improvement though.
On another note, I will never forget the way Chelsea won the CL in 2012 with that type of game Roberto Di Matteo was implementing - total anti football, defending all the time and scores on counter whenever you have a chance. I am not partizan of this type of game for sure, what I want to say, if you are not a good tactician and ready to change the tactic during a game quick, you can loose many gamers like we did last night. I will not post anything before our game with RM. Hope that Flick would adopt a adequate tactic/ game plan with our tired and low morale team right now.
 

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