EL Quarter Final: FC Barcelona - Eintracht Frankfurt 3-4 agg.

DonAK

President of FC Barcelona
I mean think about it this way.

We are still starting with players that physically and/or psychologically looked done four years ago.

They are even older now.
 

Luftstalag14

Culé de Celestial Empire
This!
We ended the game as we should have started really.
The start was atrocious, and it's not only about the pen.
Xavi playing the same ineffective 4-3-3 with Gavi Pedri advanced as if the 1st leg never happened.
Should learn how to adjust to opponents

The most frustrating part is I don't know what is going to take to change that. Is it as simple as changing the training regimen to make it more intense? I felt our overall club philosophy, starting from La Masia and up, doesn't emphasizes so much the physicality and pacey part of the game and hence it is not ingrained in our DNA to play like that. It is OK but we have to have some sort of plan, a solution to counter that.

If we know we are going to struggle against certain style of play or teams and we don't do anything, it is our own fault that we lose.
 

FinBarcelonafan

Well-known member
I mean think about it this way.

We are still starting with players that physically and/or psychologically looked done four years ago.

They are even older now.

This this.

Mentally done for years and physically on decline. Terrible combination.

Time to smoke out everyone without future potential or part of the future plan.

Summer: Laporta long days cleaning out the waste
 

Birdy

Senior Member
The most frustrating part is I don't know what is going to take to change that. Is it as simple as changing the training regimen to make it more intense? I felt our overall club philosophy, starting from La Masia and up, doesn't emphasizes so much the physicality and pacey game of the game and hence it is not ingrained in our DNA to play like that. It is OK but we have to have some sort of plan, a solution to counter that.

If we know we are going to struggle against certain style of play or teams and we don't do anything, it is our own fault that we lose.

Yes.
Adaptability is no1 in modern football.
Pep plays defense these days when needed.

Xavi has to learn to adapt or he will be just smashing the Osasunas of LL and get more European humiliations
 

mc_lovin

Senior Member
I mean think about it this way.

We are still starting with players that physically and/or psychologically looked done four years ago.

They are even older now.

Easy to point to Busquets and Alba, but the issue tonight were the younger guys being clueless positionally for me - especially the CBs. Araujo and Garcia looked their age. Hopefully Christensen can bring in experience.

Pedri and Gavi didn't look solid either, but that's another story. Not defending Busquets though.


We lack quality player in their mid 20's.
 
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DonAK

President of FC Barcelona
Easy to point to Busquets and Alba, but the issue tonight were the younger guys being clueless positionally for me - especially the CBs. Araujo and Garcia looked their age. Hopefully Christensen can bring in experience.

Pedri and Gavi didn't look solid either, but that's another story.

Removing Busquets and Alba isn't the solution, but signing their replacements is a good start, and for that you have to sign well and replace them with proper quality. But I do believe that it is going to be very tough to compete at the highest level with Busquets who need the perfect setup to be impactful without being a liability, Alba who seem to lose his composure very quickly in games like these and ter Stegen who is about to turn 30 years old but plays like he is approaching 40.

As for the CB pairing then I do agree with you. We ideally need a leader in there. I did bring up Koulibaly a couple of months ago. Yeah he turns 30 soon, but he has one year left on his contract, if you can get him for a reasonable price he would fill in the void of a leader in there while also having the required quickness and athleticism that would pair very well with Araujo. Alternatively you could go for Kounde if you believe he is an elite player in the making.

I don't think Eric is ever going to be starting quality for us and even if Christensen could be the ideal starter alongside Araujo we need to start bringing in more quality in the squad and let players compete against each other for their spots.

We do need to fill in quality at multiple positions to be fair and it's not going to be done in one transfer window.

We need a replacement at GK, we need proper competition at LB, we need quality competition at RB, we need a replacement at CDM, we need a starter at CF and likely a starter at RW too.

Not all signings have to be for the 70/80m kind, but we need to bring in proper quality instead of trying to get cheap depth that will amount to nothing.
 

mc_lovin

Senior Member
Not all signings have to be for the 70/80m kind, but we need to bring in proper quality instead of trying to get cheap depth that will amount to nothing.

But it's precisely that. We need to strengthen the middle section of the team (not too young and not too old), but it's either guys like Christensen, Kessie, Mazraoui (who I absolutely don't mind) or 70/80m transfers. There's literally nothing in between.
 

FinBarcelonafan

Well-known member
8-2 was infinitely worse.

Imo. We should have won EL not to be embarrassed. We lost vs Frankfurt at camp Nou. Way worse. We are just used to losing at this point in Europe level so it doesn't hurt as much. Bayern hurt more in a way but this is way worse loss in my eyes.
 

Luftstalag14

Culé de Celestial Empire
This wasn't a humiliation to me at all, this was more of a lesson learned while having growing pains, for me at least.

Regardless of what Xavi has done, Xaviball or not, clearly we are in the early stage of a rebuild, still trying to figure things out.
 

Luftstalag14

Culé de Celestial Empire
Imo. We should have won EL not to be embarrassed. We lost vs Frankfurt at camp Nou. Way worse. We are just used to losing at this point in Europe level so it doesn't hurt as much. Bayern hurt more in a way but this is way worse loss in my eyes.

That part sounds a bit entitled, in my opinion. The EL is not a consolation title that is easy to win, there were and are still some good teams in the tournament, I don't think we should assume if we failed in the CL, a club of our caliber should automatically win the EL.

Losing at Camp Nou is bad, the fact that were like 30K Frankfurt fans today was really embarrassing but the football part, the defeat itself, wasn't too bad for me. We are not there yet. Liverpool was in the EL several years ago, so was Dortmund, we should just keep working and get back to where we belong. Soon enough.
 

mc_lovin

Senior Member
I really had my heart set on the EL trophy, but was over it in 5 minutes.

Good luck to the remaining teams, it's a very nice title. Only League and CL are better.
 

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