Suarez and Messi didn't assist each other so often so they're still involved in most of our goals.
Yeah we totally step up when Spring comes.
Last year,we lost 3-0 to Juventus.
The year before we got our ass kicked by Atleti in the CL and nearly lost a 10 point lead to RM.
In 2014,we got dominated by Atleti in the CL,lost the CDR final to Real and won only 8 of our 13 games in La Liga,including 3 straight draws to finish the season,which resulted in losing La Liga.
In 2013 we BARELY got past PSG and then we were HUMILIATED by Bayern in the CL.
Also,if we draw against Atleti tomorrow and maintain the 5-point lead,then that would be anything but a safe distance.One draw or loss and then Atleti will be extremely close.
So what part was I wrong about?
That just makes you wrong for saying they were involved in 61 of 69 goals which they have not been
Even though wrong applying the same logic for rest of the team were involved in around 58-59 goals of the 69 scored as well.
You were wrong when you said that the % of goals involving other players would be a decent amount with the correct numbers.
I don't think the best teams in the world like Bayern or Real rely so much on two players like Barca do. I counted only 6 assists from Messi to Suarez and 4 from Suarez to Messi.
Hah no I wasnt.
Using the same rules for rest of team it is something like 58-59 goals of 69 that they were involved in.
All in Messi and Suarez are scoring/creating about just over half the goals in comparison to rest of the team.
Are you saying Barca scored 59 goals without Messi and Suarez getting a goal or an assist?
Nope.
I am saying that the rest of the team has scored/assisted 58-59 goals using same rules as you have.
Are you saying rest of team have not scored assisted 58-59 goals?
As I said originally you want to put all the emphasis on any Messi/Suarez for any goal they scored or assisted.
I clearly stated my original numbers were wrong, so I counted how many times Messi assisted Suarez and how many times Suarez assisted Messi.
Yes and using your logic to compare Messi/Suarez influence in goals it comes to about just over half of the rest of the team who put forward a decent amount of goals/assists also as I said.
Messi and Suarez have been involved in 51 of the 69 goals scored by the team.
Yip and those goals involved the rest of team for all of those 51.
The rest of the team have similar numbers as I said from start.
For every goal or assist available Messi and Suarez contribute about half maybe just over.
I don't understand what you're saying.
Messi and Suarez have been involved in 51/69 goals which means they have been involved in 73% of the goals scored by the team.
They weren't involved only in 18 goals.
I don't care about the rest of the team.
The rest of the team have been involved in similar amount of goals as I said from start and those goals Messi/Suarez scored the rest of team were involved in.
Rest of team will be around 70% involvement as well most likely.
No idea what you are on about 18 goals for. Maybe latest strange maths.
The 18 goals are the goals Barca scored in the league where Messi and Suarez didn't score or assist.
For the third time I'm not talking about the rest of the team, I'm talking about two players and I was comparing Barca to other top teams.
Real or Bayern or Juve don't have 2 players that score or assist in 73% of the goals scored as they have different options.
You seemed to think rest of team were important initially when said their numbers in comparison were poor and Barca can only score through Messi or Suarez.
Those goals and assists that Messi and Suarez get are influenced by their team mates as well which is the point.
Folk would moan if other teams did have two players plroducing more as EV not getting most out of Messi and Suarez anyway.
