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[Morten]

Being the "best" is subjective, you could say that Ronaldo isnt the best because of relatively average technique and vision, but then, isnt creating/scoring goals the most important aspects of the game?
Ronaldo is up there with the best in terms of scoring, and he can set up goals too, even if thats not the best aspect of his game.
I dont really like comparing defenders, midfielders and attackers though, they perform different roles in a team. Iniesta was a ridiculous midfielder(not so much anymore), no way Ronaldo could have done the same, but then, Iniesta could never be such a menacing forward like Ronaldo.

 

[JamDav1982]

Best player and best footballer can be different things.

Few years ago was at a Q and A with Sir Alex Ferguson and he was talking about it. In his time at Man Utd Paul Scholes was he best technical player he had. Scholes was unreal in midfield at times and could run a game on his own. Could say Scholes was the best 'footballer' he had.

But when asked who his best player ever was it wasnt even close he said Ronaldo was head and shoulders above them all for impact he had on games and difference he could make in final third.

That doesnt mean a forward has to be the best just that on overall impact on winning games Ronaldo was the more effective player by a long way.

 

[Ritchie]

Longevity aside Ronaldo isn't even the best Ronaldo, never mind a top 5 player of all time. The 2nd best player of his era, yes.

Messi and Ronaldo aside it hasn't really been a golden era for great players though. I'd say the one year Ronaldo was the best player was 2008 and Messi has been the best since then. The 5-10 years before then you had Ronaldo, Rivaldo, Ronaldinho, Zidane, Kaka, Figo, Shevchenko, plus a much better calibre of defender in terms of the best ones.

At their peak I think Zidane, Ronaldo, Rivaldo and Ronaldinho were all better players than CR7 at his peak. What CR7 has been so good is producing a top level every year. Ronaldinho's lasted maybe 4 or 5 years.

 

[JamDav1982]

Longevity aside Ronaldo isn't even the best Ronaldo, never mind a top 5 player of all time. The 2nd best player of his era, yes.

Dont think that will be the general opinion who Portugese Ronaldo is finished.

Longevity plays a part. As does trophies and number of goals scored in seasons etc.

Peak Brazilian Ronaldo was definitly the silkier player and easier one eye and might be best ever at his peak but wont really be in that discussion.

 

[Givenchy]

Longevity aside Ronaldo isn't even the best Ronaldo, never mind a top 5 player of all time. The 2nd best player of his era, yes.

Messi and Ronaldo aside it hasn't really been a golden era for great players though. I'd say the one year Ronaldo was the best player was 2008 and Messi has been the best since then. The 5-10 years before then you had Ronaldo, Rivaldo, Ronaldinho, Zidane, Kaka, Figo, Shevchenko, plus a much better calibre of defender in terms of the best ones.

At their peak I think Zidane, Ronaldo, Rivaldo and Ronaldinho were all better players than CR7 at his peak. What CR7 has been so good is producing a top level every year. Ronaldinho's lasted maybe 4 or 5 years.

totally agree but we have to take longevity into account imo or else I'd say Ronaldinho had no equal

 

[Luftstalag14]

His willingness to tirelessly run and find the best position to tap the ball will make him score a lot of goals in many years to come, unless he drastically declines physically.

 

[mehdimike]

Longevity aside Ronaldo isn't even the best Ronaldo, never mind a top 5 player of all time. The 2nd best player of his era, yes.

Messi and Ronaldo aside it hasn't really been a golden era for great players though. I'd say the one year Ronaldo was the best player was 2008 and Messi has been the best since then. The 5-10 years before then you had Ronaldo, Rivaldo, Ronaldinho, Zidane, Kaka, Figo, Shevchenko, plus a much better calibre of defender in terms of the best ones.

At their peak I think Zidane, Ronaldo, Rivaldo and Ronaldinho were all better players than CR7 at his peak. What CR7 has been so good is producing a top level every year. Ronaldinho's lasted maybe 4 or 5 years.

But for me 2012 Ronaldo was better than all of these players.
His Speed,Headers,Shooting were absolutely devastating.

 

[JamDav1982]

Give me Ronaldos peak 4-5 years over any of those players.

Compare them if you want to.

For example used to watch Zidane week in week out and while he had some amazing moments and games he was nowhere near the constant threat week in week out that Ronaldo is.

His peak years have been far better than likes of Figo and Kaka as well and he was probably the best player in the world when Kaka won it in 2007.

For him to be so good and Messi be better just says it all about Messi for me.

 

[Messi]

Peak Ronaldinho and Brazilian Ronaldo where better than peak Cristiano

 

[Morten]

Peak Ronaldinho and Brazilian Ronaldo where better than peak Cristiano

Too bad their peaks combined lasted shorter than Cristianos.
Being able to keep it up year after year is very important as well.

 

[JamDav1982]

Peak Ronaldinho and Brazilian Ronaldo where better than peak Cristiano

Dont agree.

Compare eithers top 4-5 seasons and there is only one winner.

 

[Truthist]

His willingness to tirelessly run and find the best position to tap the ball will make him score a lot of goals in many years to come, unless he drastically declines physically.

This!

He has an incredible desire to score goals, much like Kane these days and no matter what happens he will continue to score and miss a horde of chances.


People say once he declines he won't score as much BUT the thing is his all round game has been below par for years now anyway so it doesn't matter.

 

[El Flaco]

Too bad their peaks combined lasted shorter than Cristianos.
Being able to keep it up year after year is very important as well.

Any player at any time can get hit by an injury that ruins their career.

Remember Eduardo Silva? 1 horrible tackle from Martin Taylor and his ankle/career was pretty much fucked up.

Avoiding injuries has nothing to do with ability, it's just pure luck and it's unfair to hold this against players as if it was skill trait they lack.

 

[Morten]

Any player at any time can get hit by an injury that ruins their career.

Remember Eduardo Silva? 1 horrible tackle from Martin Taylor and his ankle/career was pretty much fucked up.

Avoiding injuries has nothing to do with ability, it's just pure luck and it's unfair to hold this against players as if it was skill trait they lack.

Not his fault ofc, but injuries happens.
Brazilian Ronaldo was incredible before that injury, but after he was "only" a top class striker.
Anyways, Cristianos peaks isnt anything to laugh about either, btw.

 

[JamDav1982]

Any player at any time can get hit by an injury that ruins their career.

Remember Eduardo Silva? 1 horrible tackle from Martin Taylor and his ankle/career was pretty much fucked up.

Avoiding injuries has nothing to do with ability, it's just pure luck and it's unfair to hold this against players as if it was skill trait they lack.

It is the way it is though. We never really got to see what a peak, fit Ronaldo went on to achieve and as great as he was always feels like there was more to come to see what he could lead teams to.

Ability wise he may have been the best ever but he probably had two seasons in good leagues before starting to get plagued by injury.

His latter years at Real etc he was still a good player but not the same.