Cesc Fàbregas

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Hamzah

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DB10 said:
As soon as Cesc is ripping it up for his new club you'll all be bitching to buy him back......again

A lot of fans suffer from 'shiny new thing' syndrome,myself included. Sometimes what you already have is pretty good.
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Well said man. People completely overlook his good points and blame the team failing in the second half of the season on his performances. Conveniently skipping over the fact that for the past three seasons the whole team has been bad in the second half of the season.

I agree he looks out of place sometimes but that's a tactical issue a good coach can solve. Nothing wrong with the player.
 
Sumlit

Sumlit

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evilhita666 said:
Well, there a few things he should definetily improve, but yeah, Cesc's problems have a lot to do with the tactics used by our coaches...
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3 different coaches, and none of them have been able to get consistent play out of Cesc....

Yeah, it must be the coaches. It could not possibly be that player is just simply an inconsistent player...
 
evilhita666

evilhita666

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Sumlit said:
3 different coaches, and none of them have been able to get consistent play out of Cesc....

Yeah, it must be the coaches. It could not possibly be that player is just simply an inconsistent player...
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Three coaches have spent two and a half seasons trying to perpetuate an obsolete system... It's not like they have tried anything different when it comes to Cesc, except for Tata in the first half of this season...
 
Sumlit

Sumlit

San Claudio Bravo
evilhita666 said:
Three coaches have spent two and a half seasons trying to perpetuate an obsolete system... It's not like they have tried anything different when it comes to Cesc, except for Tata in the first half of this season...
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There is no evidence the system is obsolete, only that the players have deteriorated and therefore the system has not been played at the same level.

Even still, system does not excuse the inconsistent play and the second half performance dips. This in on the player, not the system or the coaches.
 
Ursegor

Ursegor

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DB10 said:
As soon as Cesc is ripping it up for his new club you'll all be bitching to buy him back......again

A lot of fans suffer from 'shiny new thing' syndrome,myself included. Sometimes what you already have is pretty good.
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He would rip it up at another club. Sanchez will too. They still don't suit Barca. Is Javi Martinez a bad player? He was bullying everyone in midfield including Iniesta in a treble winning team last season. Under Guardiola he is a bench player / part time centerback now. Similarly Cesc doesn't suit Barca's give-and-go positional play. He's best at feeding runners in quick transitions. A team that holds the ball 70 % of the time on average doesn't get many chances in transition. So he shines in bursts throughout a game.

Next season he'll struggle even more. Luis Enrique will be a lot less "direct" than Martino. Wouldn't be surprised if Rafinha outshone him within a few months after his return.
 
Ursegor

Ursegor

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evilhita666 said:
Three coaches have spent two and a half seasons trying to perpetuate an obsolete system... It's not like they have tried anything different when it comes to Cesc, except for Tata in the first half of this season...
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Tata hasn't done anything in the 1st half of the season. Some peeps cling onto something that never happened ("Tata making Barca go away from possession until Xavi took over again"), just because of that Rayo Vallecano game. A tie in which Barca had equally low possession numbers under Tito because of the state of the pitch coupled with Rayo's chaotic pressing and not because Tata was applying completely different tactics. Here is a whole article from a German tactic blog dedicated to that same tie under Vilanova from 2012: http://spielverlagerung.de/2012/10/31/wie-rayo-dem-fc-barcelona-den-ballbesitz-streitig-machte/ (loosely translated: "How Rayo Vallecano tried to outfight Barcelona for possession"). We had between 52 and 55 % possession in that tie under Vilanova (depending how you count possession) and only 441 short passes compared to Rayo's 301. Tata himself said he was not going to touch Barca's style and repeatedly pointed out that the possession numbers under him were about the same as under Tito.

TL;DR: There was nothing "different". Just Messi's injury making us play differently with Cesc als false 9 where he had complete freedom in the final third.
 
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Cesc Fabregas has created more clear-cut chances than any other player in Europe’s top 5 leagues this season
 
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