BBZ8800
Senior Member
I think you are slightly optimistic: Valverde is rock bottom (coaching wise). He has no redeeming qualities. Thats where we disagree.
1. Lucho was 10-15 points behind RM in his last 18 Months here.
EV comes without Neymar and wins 2 titles infront of the same RM.
= people will reply= RM got way weaker, that is the reason, and not EV.
= my reply=it could get worse, exactly like it was in Lucho's last 18 Months. Except that we are now 3 years older and it could get way worse.
2. people say: anyone can win a title on autopilot, Messi alone will do it.
in 4 years before EV:
2014: Tata didn't win
2015: Lucho won it
2016: Lucho has almost lost 10 points advantage in the last 6 Months
2017: Lucho has lost it.
In 4 years prior to EV, we lost 2 La Ligas.
How is that possible, if anyone can win it?
What is worse, we almost lost 3 titles (2016').
I know, an alibi will be again: our opponents were SOOOO STRONG back then.
Or the excuses: Tata was on a verge of winning it, he lost it due to an offside.
Well, EV was on a verge of winning a CL, if Dembele, Rakitic and Alba weren't idiots.
They you guys will reply: but WHO picked those players?=EV. So, that means that he is an idiot.
On the other hand, when Pep loses in a CL=it is not because of him, but because of an individual errors of his players.
Should I even dare to use some logic and ask: but hey, if EV is an idiot for putting idiots on a field, does that apply to Pep?
Regarding "it can be worse" alibi on our forum.
Just look at some recent patterns:
We had Rakitic for years.
The board wanted a better player.
They tried with:
1. Arda
2. Gomes
3. Denis
4. Paulinho
And finally in the 5th and 6th attempt, we got upgrades in Arthur and Frenkie.
Or, Suarez and: anyone would be better than him?
Messi as a No9 sucks today, he is not an improvement over Suarez.
People wanted to try Malcom as a 9.
People wanted Griezz.
Yet: we are shit with Suarez.
But we are 10 times more shit WITHOUT Suarez.
Or, in 2000 when Van Gaal was fired due to his too complicated and too mathematical football which lacked poetry and romance, even though he won 2 La ligas in 3 years.
It can be worse than this, people thought back then.
We had Serra Ferrer, Rexach, Van Gaal AGAIN, De La Cruz and Antic.
We were worse and worse with each new coach.
In the 6th attempt, 4 years and 0 titles later, we finally found a coach who was an improvement over Van Gaal in terms of trophies and eye pleasing play.
So, unless if you have watched Barca when we were 4th, 6th or 10th in La Liga, trust me, we are MILES from the bottom.
We could easily drop to a 3rd, 4th and 5th place.
And our play has a lot of room to become even more chaotic, and our defense has a lot of room to start conceding 3-4 on every match.
Again, I am not against changes.
But I am not for changes for the sake of changes.
Koeman for me makes sense.
Gallardo is just a wtf option for me in this moment.
A guy with zero European coaching experience, who was an average footballer. Who has zero experience with coaching spoiled divas.
Also, a new coach will need to kick Messi's, Suarez's, Busi's, Pique's, Alba's, Raki's, Vidal's, Roberto's asses.
This is subjective, but I have watched BOTH Koeman and Gallardo as players.
I personally always had some fear of Koeman.
A strong, angry, Dutch defender, who rarely laughs and who is kicking people and scoring goals from 30 meters.
On the other hand, Gallardo was a light technical midfielder like Iniesta, Denis, Puig.
His nickname as a player was "the doll". Since he looked like a doll...
Nice shiny skills, zero authority.
Again, this is subjective, but who is more likely to install new rules in the dressing room?
You need to be somewhat scared of your coach due to his his career, history, attitude, leadership etc.
Who seems to posses more of those skills?
A former Barca's captain, cold Dutch Koeman, and a scorer of a free kick in 1992 which won us the 1st CL title?
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Or the doll?
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Before anyone replies: but Pep was also nice.
Pep was not nice.
He was physically softer and a technical player, but mentally he was our captain, and he was always yelling and arguing with teammates, coaches, refs and always telling people what to do on a pitch during matches.