Nelson Semedo

[BBZ8800]

He can't improve too much.
The same as with Arthur's creative play, Semedo isn't natural in that area.

All of his attacking actions look weird, forced, random and without confidence in final moments.

It is one of those flaws which you can't repair.
It is not down to Barca, EV or Setien.

He is almost 27 and doesn't have double digits of crosses in his career.
Career total: 7 assists.
This is not on Barca's coaches.

 

[clemente]

The only time BBZ ever wrote a compliment to our players was when Rakitic passed to Mane

 

[BBZ8800]

The only time BBZ ever wrote a compliment to our players was when Rakitic passed to Mane

Messi is good
Suarez is good
Frenkie, Busi, Lenglet, Roberto, Mats, Raki, Vidal are okish.
Alba is useful.
There are some nice things about Braithwaite.

Here you go.

 

[Latschenkiefer]

Messi is good
Suarez is good
Frenkie, Busi, Lenglet, Roberto, Mats, Raki, Vidal are okish.
Alba is useful.
There are some nice things about Braithwaite.

Here you go.

This is more or less our line-up against Liverpool last season and we fucked up big time. And as you often say, the coaches aren't really at fault... so Pique takes the blame or Arthur for not cheerleading like prime CR7 on the sidelines?

 

[BBZ8800]

This is more or less our line-up against Liverpool last season and we fucked up big time. And as you often say, the coaches aren't really at fault... so Pique takes the blame or Arthur for not cheerleading like prime CR7 on the sidelines?

If that was our lineup and we lost, it doesn't mean that the other players are suddenly better.

You guys are desperate and unrealistic.

Yes, we need better players and a new blood for the future.
It doesn't mean that Semedo, Arthur, Riki, Todibo, Firpo, Fati and co are the answer.

I know, you guys would like a quick fix.
The reality is something else.

Old guys were quality players but their days are gone and their motivation is gone.
But majority of new signings and younger hopes are horrible and several levels below washed out amigos.

 

[Latschenkiefer]

If that was our lineup and we lost, it doesn't mean that the other players are suddenly better.

You guys are desperate and unrealistic.

Yes, we need better players and a new blood for the future.
It doesn't mean that Semedo, Arthur, Riki, Todibo, Firpo, Fati and co are the answer.

I know, you guys would like a quick fix.
The reality is something else.

Old guys were quality players but their days are gone and their motivation is gone.
But majority of new signings and younger hopes are horrible and several levels below washed out amigos.

Who is "you guys"? It's just me who is talking to you.

No, but it also doesn't deny it. These certain players got trashed 4-0 and had already been the worse team in the first leg and just won because of luck and Messi's magic. If you prefer these certain players, you would have picked the same formation. And if you don't have anything against the coaches, you presumably would have picked the same tactics.

I mean, especially Semedo could have been a massive upgrade due to his way superior defensive abilities and pace compared to Roberto's. Arthur was a beast in some games last season. He could have given the midfield stability by holding on to possession and drawing fouls. Todibo instead of one of the CBs would have been an option too. At least he is strong and can outrun a turtle which is a good tool against Liverpool's fast players. You yourself said that Pique isn't even "okish" or "useful". And that players like Ansu can be game changers we have witnessed all season long. We didn't even field Dembele or Malcom instead of Coutinho who was just awful - again.

If you think that the old players lost their motivation which is the first criteria a competitive athlete has to fulfill then your decision is even more baffling. The young players would at least give some effort and dedication. No youngster can flourish if he doesn't even get playing time in minor La Liga games over washed up old players. And less of them decide to stay or join the team in the first place. It's not as if we could affort to bench some of the old players with their ridiculously high wages. Some of them have to go as soon as possible ... or take a massive paycut which won't happen.

You mean the "quick fix" which lasts around four years by now? I got eye bleeding when we played the first good opponent on friday and the team-sheet was more or less the same as against Liverpool last season - just one year older. And the result says it all.

 

[vuji_31]

Pedri,Puig,Fati and Urugay CB can easily be players that can be in 14 players rotation.

Problem is that they are not getting chances because of Messi, in terms to not waste time until he is retired .

We need to wait next election, and Messi last season to see rebuild.
Until that nothing

 

[khaled_a_d]

Pedri,Puig,Fati and Urugay CB can easily be players that can be in 14 players rotation.

Problem is that they are not getting chances because of Messi, in terms to not waste time until he is retired .

We need to wait next election, and Messi last season to see rebuild.
Until that nothing

Messi didn't prevent Fati from getting chances, chances no players got at same age since Bojan.
Pedri is even younger and his deal only kicks in next season. I like him a lot but not sure if it is good idea if we get him in 1st team squad at such young age.
Araujo got games, but he is no better than either Lenglet or Pique atm, many fans here were actually thinking Todibo is better. All the rumors is that he will get promoted to 1st team next season. Up to him to overtake Umtiti place


tbh, the board allowed big investments in youth, Zubi got us Halilovic along many other prospects (and almost Asensio) and Neymar (though that was Rossell)


Honestly, I doubt any board before has put more money on youth. But they just suck

Robert got us 22/23 years old players mostly. Umtiti (23) Denis (22) Deulofeu (23) Gomes (23) Paco (23) Digne (23) Lenglet (23) Arthur (22) Dembele (20) Semedo (23)

Abidal got us Emerson,Wague, Matheus Fernandes,Todibo, Trincao, Pedri, FDJ & Firpo. Also during that time we signed many younger players like Reis, Araujo, Ramos Mingo.

The club never really ignored youth, and it isn't veteran fault either that young players doesn't make impact.

We simply have 2 main problems:
1-We choose average players or overrated talents. Guys like Halilovic over Asensio for example. Just because those players are young doesn't mean they deserve a place here. Or a starting line up. Up till now no one has come and proved he deserves to bench Pique/Suarez/Busquets. Even now when they are declining the sad truth they are the best in their positions in the club. Except may be for FDJ over Busquets

2-We have problems in helping our players to reach their potential. We seem a bit limited with our options on loans for example. RM has developed Carvajal in Leverkusen, Hakimi in BVB, Casamero in Porto, Varane within the team. They aren't without faults ( Fabinho) but we simply got worse. We seemed clueless when choosing where and how we develop our players.
We develop talents very well until they are in Juvenil A, but we fails when they are on the cusp of getting to 1st team.

 

[vuji_31]

Well from all players that you mentioned Umtiti (23) Denis (22) Deulofeu (23) Gomes (23) Paco (23) Digne (23) Lenglet (23) Arthur (22) Dembele (20) Semedo (23) , Emerson,Wague, Matheus Fernandes,Todibo, Trincao, Pedri, FDJ & Firpo
only Frenkie was player that a lot of teams where after him. Dembele was great talent but he is stupid as fuck. Pedri seems like good potential.

All the others are real mediocre players , which didn't have too much potential.
Look where are they playing...Celta Vigo,Everton,Velencia,Nice...

Real gems in world football now are Haaland,Sancho,Mbappe,Camavinga,Upamecano,Konate,Tonalli,Odegard,Nicinouis,Rodrygo,Saka,Reinier,Fodden...
We are not getting players like that we are just getting some cheap talents that could be sold for some profit.

 

[khaled_a_d]

Well from all players that you mentioned Umtiti (23) Denis (22) Deulofeu (23) Gomes (23) Paco (23) Digne (23) Lenglet (23) Arthur (22) Dembele (20) Semedo (23) , Emerson,Wague, Matheus Fernandes,Todibo, Trincao, Pedri, FDJ & Firpo

Umtiti was great signing before injury, Real and Juve were both after Gomes.

only Frenkie was player that a lot of teams where after him. Dembele was great talent but he is stupid as fuck. Pedri seems like good potential.

If we get them early, we will look at it as "no one after him" and if we go after them later it is " too late, they are expensive"
I am guilty of that too btw

Real gems in world football now are Haaland,Sancho,Mbappe,Camavinga,Upamecano,Konate,Tonalli,Odegard,Nicinouis,Rodrygo,Saka,Reinier,Fodden...
We are not getting players like that we are just getting some cheap talents that could be sold for some profit.

Fati belong to this names. Hopefully Pedri will join them.

Look where are they playing...Celta Vigo,Everton,Velencia,Nice...

That is my point, we paid a lot for many of those. It is just we suck in developing/selecting the players.

 

[vuji_31]

I have no problem with signing players for small fee and making them our team best players, but the problem is that it seems like we don't like fast and agile players , only players that have some passing and possesion skills.
I would like to see some diffrent players like it was adama traore.

 

[Messigician]

I can't watch anymore, he's legitimately brain dead and kills every single attack. He's done here

 

[Zebulun]

Defensively he had a great game, helped pique to keep williams quiet all game. offensively he started off good but somehow vidal messes up with his positioning when he goes to the right side. his final ball has been lacking though.

 

[JamDav1982]

I can't watch anymore, he's legitimately brain dead and kills every single attack. He's done here

Thought he had a good second half and looks better in build up than in past.

Still not great in final third but for most part he tried to move ball quickly and carried it forward well.

 

[DonAK]

He cannot play our slow, build-up game. He looks bad at it.

When the ball is played quicker and the game moves at a much higher pace he plays better.