Lionel "The Greatest of All Time" Messi

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xxxxxx

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fair enough but i dont think the messi camp wants to go the direction of most x anything

pele has more wcs
mbappe has more wc final goals
CR has more CL goals
CR has more CL KO goals
CR has more intl matches goals
CR and Seedorf have more CL titles


etc etc etc

dont think that way of thinking about things helps messi lol. MJ is just pure greatness. messi doesnt even come close. theres prob no other 'goat' who was humiliated or that has had a greatest losing streak than messi. in the sports GOAT ladders messi is pretty unremarkable

Pele only won the World Cup twice.... he got injured at the start of one of his World Cup wins. In the 1958 World Cup, he wasn't even the top scorer... or close to the top scorer. In the 1970 World Cup, he played with arguably the best team of all time. Pele is undoubtedly a legend and one of the best of all time, but he had a lot of help with his "3" World Cup wins.

And Klose has more World Cup goals than Messi, but we all know Messi is by far the better player. Ronaldo is a great goalscorer, but a lot of his goals were laid on a plate for him during the knockout stages in the Champs League. He doesn't open the play-up or score the goals Messi has. And his international goals are so inflated. Imagine if Messi was playing the Lithuania's, Andorra's and the Latvia's of the world as much as Ronaldo does. When Messi did play against a team as bad as Latvia, he banged in 5 against them.
 

malvolio

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Pele only won the World Cup twice.... he got injured at the start of one of his World Cup wins. In the 1958 World Cup, he wasn't even the top scorer... or close to the top scorer. In the 1970 World Cup, he played with arguably the best team of all time. Pele is undoubtedly a legend and one of the best of all time, but he had a lot of help with his "3" World Cup wins.

And Klose has more World Cup goals than Messi, but we all know Messi is by far the better player. Ronaldo is a great goalscorer, but a lot of his goals were laid on a plate for him during the knockout stages in the Champs League. He doesn't open the play-up or score the goals Messi has. And his international goals are so inflated. Imagine if Messi was playing the Lithuania's, Andorra's and the Latvia's of the world as much as Ronaldo does. When Messi did play against a team as bad as Latvia, he banged in 5 against them.

Suddenly Pele is the dogs bollocks, even though he had the best NT team ever behind him.
 

CatalinR10

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BarcaOG

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Pele only won the World Cup twice.... he got injured at the start of one of his World Cup wins. In the 1958 World Cup, he wasn't even the top scorer... or close to the top scorer. In the 1970 World Cup, he played with arguably the best team of all time. Pele is undoubtedly a legend and one of the best of all time, but he had a lot of help with his "3" World Cup wins.

And Klose has more World Cup goals than Messi, but we all know Messi is by far the better player. Ronaldo is a great goalscorer, but a lot of his goals were laid on a plate for him during the knockout stages in the Champs League. He doesn't open the play-up or score the goals Messi has. And his international goals are so inflated. Imagine if Messi was playing the Lithuania's, Andorra's and the Latvia's of the world as much as Ronaldo does. When Messi did play against a team as bad as Latvia, he banged in 5 against them.

if we are using that logic then messi has only won 3 cls bc he was injured for the end of the 2006--and not only that, he wasnt even a big contributor to the 06 title as that was ronnie/etoo/deco


so i dont think you want to make that argument lol
 

KingLeo10

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He produced 65 G + A in 2022 at the age of 35 :lol: :lol:

Has ~800 career goals and ~370 career assists

Probably will retire at around ~1,300 G + A
 

raskolnikov

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He produced 65 G + A in 2022 at the age of 35 :lol: :lol:

Has ~800 career goals and ~370 career assists

Probably will retire at around ~1,300 G + A

I remember a decade ago we speculated it would a great miracle if he would end up with 700 Goals and 300 assists.

He's basically crushing that due to keeping hisstats up for years and not declining like a normal player post 30 (except ladt season). His longetivity is sick.
At this points its just up to him with how long he will end up playing to what stats he would reach.
 

Liquidskies

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Just realised Messi has almost a identical assist against Netherlands in 2008, crazy
[tw]<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Messi v Holland - 2008 Olympics <br><br>Those type of assists have just consistently been part of it, the greatest ever player, its not even a debate 🙌 <a href="https://t.co/J6mufg2NBO">pic.twitter.com/J6mufg2NBO</a></p>— ScotsAbroadPod (@ScotsAbroadPod) <a href="https://twitter.com/ScotsAbroadPod/status/1601302311816470528?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">December 9, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script> [/tw]
 

Pedro

La Masia
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">&#55357;&#57000; No celebration is planned for Leo Messi at Parc des Princes tomorrow. The club considers that the welcome given to it when he returned to the training center is enough to mark the occasion. <a href="https://twitter.com/davidopoczynski?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@davidopoczynski</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/le_Parisien_PSG?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@le_Parisien_PSG</a> ⛔️&#55356;&#57286;&#55356;&#56811;&#55356;&#56823; <a href="https://t.co/cfPy8BSNJ8">pic.twitter.com/cfPy8BSNJ8</a></p>— All About Argentina &#55357;&#57038;&#55356;&#56806;&#55356;&#56823; (@AlbicelesteTalk) <a href="https://twitter.com/AlbicelesteTalk/status/1612840218721398785?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 10, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
 

Raketa10

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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">�� No celebration is planned for Leo Messi at Parc des Princes tomorrow. The club considers that the welcome given to it when he returned to the training center is enough to mark the occasion. <a href="https://twitter.com/davidopoczynski?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@davidopoczynski</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/le_Parisien_PSG?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@le_Parisien_PSG</a> ⛔️������ <a href="https://t.co/cfPy8BSNJ8">pic.twitter.com/cfPy8BSNJ8</a></p>— All About Argentina ������ (@AlbicelesteTalk) <a href="https://twitter.com/AlbicelesteTalk/status/1612840218721398785?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 10, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

They are afraid of Mbappe's reaction. :lol:
 

Horatio

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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">�� No celebration is planned for Leo Messi at Parc des Princes tomorrow. The club considers that the welcome given to it when he returned to the training center is enough to mark the occasion. <a href="https://twitter.com/davidopoczynski?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@davidopoczynski</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/le_Parisien_PSG?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@le_Parisien_PSG</a> ⛔️������ <a href="https://t.co/cfPy8BSNJ8">pic.twitter.com/cfPy8BSNJ8</a></p>— All About Argentina ������ (@AlbicelesteTalk) <a href="https://twitter.com/AlbicelesteTalk/status/1612840218721398785?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 10, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Smart move. He'd get booed and Ronaldo fanboys would run with the footage for the coming years.
 

JohnN

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Closing in one a whole month since the undisputed goat lifted the world cup with players like Molina at his side.
 

Barcaman

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Could have easily stayed on. Team can cover for one player that doesn't run that much, especially of his quality. We kept Busquets the legless mongoloid instead.
 
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