Leo_Messi
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I am calling it now. We will top this list next season provided that we reach the CL-semifinals.
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FC Barcelona Finances
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I am calling it now. We will top this list next season provided that we reach the CL-semifinals.
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Luftstalag14
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Any idea how much is the prize money for winning the CL these days? I'd guess it would be counted as part of "match day" portion of revenues.
Luftstalag14
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I am calling it now. We will top this list next season provided that we reach the CL-semifinals.
Our performance in the Champions League this season will definitely be the key in driving our revenue up further, agreed.
But I am not sure if we will top Real Madrid, their new main sponsorship and kit deals are both said to be slightly better than ours.
Devils
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I couldn't find an official source but this article:
https://www.90min.com/posts/6206580...t-prize-money-in-the-2017-18-champions-league
Barcelona have missed a pretty big payday being unable to get passed the QFs for the past 3 years.
Luftstalag14
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This picture (showing increase in revenue from 2017 to 2018) is pretty telling:
Luftstalag14
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According to Soccerex's 2019 Edition Football Finance 100 report, we are at 7th place with a massive net debt of €435M (an increase of €120M from 2018 debt level which was at €315M), tangible assets of €146M (went up only by €3M from 2018) and cash in the bank of €93M. I understand we have big debt but I don't get it why our the figure of tangible assets is so low.
In comparison those three figures for Real Madrid, Bayern, City, PSG, United for example are at:
NET DEBT ASSETS CASH
@Real_fuck_Madrid: €294M €333M €178M
@Bayern: -€85M (negative, essentially ZERO debt) €252M €151.9M
@City: €80M €471M €21M
@PSG: €37M €99M €88.1M
@Man_United: €751M €279M €331M
In comparison those three figures for Real Madrid, Bayern, City, PSG, United for example are at:
NET DEBT ASSETS CASH
@Real_fuck_Madrid: €294M €333M €178M
@Bayern: -€85M (negative, essentially ZERO debt) €252M €151.9M
@City: €80M €471M €21M
@PSG: €37M €99M €88.1M
@Man_United: €751M €279M €331M
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Luftstalag14
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Our sponsorship with Audi is coming to an end with them not renewing. Don't know how much they pay us each year but what a bummer.
Joan
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an increase of €120M from 2018 debt level which was at €315M
How did this happen?
Luftstalag14
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No idea. Perhaps we did tap into future funding to buy players or something. Or we started some preliminary work on the Espai Project?
It is really worrying that our debt is this high without having even officially started embarking on the Espai Project. We will need at least 200m out of our own coffers for it.
Joan
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Thought it could have something to do with it, too. Pure speculations, though. Doubt it has much to do with buying players, we seemingly did well in the market in the last year or so. (Could it have anything to do with Coutinho?)
El Gato
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First of all, just to get this out of the way, the formatting of this report is fucking horrible. Terrible terrible layout and contrast.
As for the content - is net debt a calculated balance of the other factors in this equation? I'm no economist, but this is the first report in a while where I've seen net debt mentioned and it being in positive figures. Most official statements I've seen Madrid publish in the last 2 years show negative debt numbers - https://www.realmadrid.com/en/news/...counting-player-transfers-up-113-on-last-year
Another takeaway from this is the "Owner Potential Investment" being at 0. This is what I suspect is the actual issue with either the true situation or the way it's reported here. Perez and Barto surely provide some form of cash injection.
El Gato
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Also incidentally, Barca's annual statement from 16/17 mentions negative debt of -€8M as a decrease from €22M the year prior (page 282), although tangible asset numbers do look pretty accurate compared to that Soccerex report (around €160M, page 226) - https://pulse-static-files.s3.amazo...7-8afa-9ce2a0129045/Annual-Report-2016-17.pdf
Not sure who to trust here, since Barca are notoriously not transparent as to how they present their finances, but given I've never heard of Soccerex I'm not sure if I understand their take here.
Not sure who to trust here, since Barca are notoriously not transparent as to how they present their finances, but given I've never heard of Soccerex I'm not sure if I understand their take here.
Luftstalag14
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I don't know, perhaps Soccerex really meant debt when they said net debt? If you think about it, you guys have a lot of cash on hand so perhaps you do have more cash than your debt hence a negative net debt for you guys? I don't think Soccerex pulled their numbers out of nowhere.
The same page you referred to on our 16/17 annual report that shows our intangible assets (page 226) also shows our liabilities which include our different kinds of debt (long term, short term etc.) which already looked alarming and in line with the numbers that Soccerex is reporting. I am no economist either and I know we (Barca) don't usually have much cash on hand so to me the difference between debt and net debt is not that much.
By the way does Real Madrid publish annual report like ours?
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