Chadi Riad

JamDav1982

Senior Member
None of the mentioned are playing on the right wing so Luismi doesn't invade on their minutes.

Maybe they let him go if Pocho breaks through but he is looking a dud.

They are all mids that will be in team before him soon.
Luismi hasnt been that good and Barca wont pay 2-3m for him.
Makes zero sense at all.
 

Messi983

Senior Member
The Moroccan did not travel to the United States with the first team to close his new destination. Betis has acted decisively and now only the details of the final formula of the operation remain to be ironed out.

Betis is in favour of a loan with an option to buy, while Barça insists on a transfer with a buy-back option at the end of the season. The Barça club has negotiated with several Spanish clubs and the Championship claiming a transfer close to 4 million euros.
 

Messi983

Senior Member
Nothing is confirmed, Betis waiting for Miranda sale to even confirm Collado and probably Chadi.

I've seen some rumours about Miranda leaving but nothing concrete AFAIK.

Canales's sale to Mexico should go through in coming days and that should be enough (they'll get around 10m fee + offload wages that were amongst the highest in the team) for Betis to register Chadi and Bartra who is also returning (they both arrived to Sevilla last night).


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You never know though. It's unbelievable that a team like Betis has problems registering a loan of Barca B player who is on low wages.

Tebas has really ruined Spanish football.
 

Porque

Senior Member
Betis is a bit higher level than I was expecting. Fairplay if he manages to crack their 11.

If you watch Chadi at the B, alot of similarities to Araujo there. Though it may just be resemblance bias.
 

Messi983

Senior Member
Wouldn't be surprised if he's a starter before end of the season.

Betis currently only has 2 CBs - Luiz Felipe (linked with a 20m move to EPL which will probably happen as they need money like 19 other La Liga clubs) and German Pezzella with Bartra now obviously coming too alongside Chadi. So should get some good minutes.

Is the buy-back confirmed?

From what I've read it will be a loan with buy option for Betis.

Didn't see anything about buy-back for Barca but hopefully we'll include that. Would be stupid to let this kid out of club control for basically nothing (4-5m next year won't really help us much). Give him two years in Betis and then return as a left-footed CB when Inigo's contract is up.

Maybe Deco, Xavi and co. believe Mikayil's Faye has a higher longterm upside than Chadi but we should keep our options open because you never on what level either of them will be in 2-3 years.
 

Messi983

Senior Member
Good deal if true.

Although the versions that have been published regarding what Barça will receive for the Chadi Riad operation are different, MD has been able to confirm from sources close to the negotiation that the center-back is leaving on loan to Real Betis, with a mandatory purchase option set at 3 million euros. In addition, Barça keeps 50% of a future sale of the Moroccan international.

In addition, Barça has a repurchase option, set at 7 million euros.
 

Porque

Senior Member
Good deal if true.

Although the versions that have been published regarding what Barça will receive for the Chadi Riad operation are different, MD has been able to confirm from sources close to the negotiation that the center-back is leaving on loan to Real Betis, with a mandatory purchase option set at 3 million euros. In addition, Barça keeps 50% of a future sale of the Moroccan international.

In addition, Barça has a repurchase option, set at 7 million euros.

Good deal if it isn't the usual MD hogwash and the buyback clause ends up being BS.
 

Luftstalag14

Culé de Celestial Empire
What is the point of a loan with a mandatory purchase option? Basically we are just delaying getting paid the 2.5 million (according to Romano) fee. And hopefully we don't have to pay part of his salary on loan.
 

Don Juan Laporta Estruch

Well-known member
Who in their right mind buys a player for 3m and then lets the selling party buy him back for 7m if he is any good? On top of that, gives away half of any future sale to another club.

Have Betis turned in to the Barca of Bartomeu? Not buying this at all. :bartomeu:
 

Messi983

Senior Member
What is the point of a loan with a mandatory purchase option? Basically we are just delaying getting paid the 2.5 million (according to Romano) fee. And hopefully we don't have to pay part of his salary on loan.

3m wouldn't exactly save us.

If reports are true it's the best deal we could get if we still want to keep a longterm control over the player and at the same time send him to a club where he'll have a fair chance to get minutes. Alternatively could have sold him to a lower table EPL team for a bit more money but then who knows what would happen with him if (or better said when) he wouldn't make a breakthrough there.

It's probably also a sign Barca thinks he's at least two years away from having a potential role in the first team here which is probably a fair assessment given we've just signed Inigo and have other younger CBs.


Who in their right mind buys a player for 3m and then lets the selling party buy him back for 7m if he is any good? On top of that, gives away half of any future sale to another club.

Have Betis turned in to the Barca of Bartomeu? Not buying this at all. :bartomeu:

Betis is a broken club (thanks to Tebas). They can have a player for almost free for two years (this season on loan and then next season as it's unlikely they would decide to sell straight after buying him) and if he develops well they can earn some money on him. This way they would also have bigger incentives to play him than if he'd be just a loanee knowing he'd return to Barca regardless of how he'd do.

From Barca's perspective he's given a 2-3 year development window so a bit more stability than if he'd return after a loan and we'd have to look for a new club next year.

If ideally in 2-3 years he turns out great we just get him back. If he's shit we at least didn't give him away for nothing like we're doing with so many players. If he's somewhere in the middle (which he'll probably be) so a good player but not quite up to Barca's standards then we can hope Betis will sell for 15-20m and we get half of that (Betis would also push to get as high fee as possible from interested clubs knowing they'd have to give us 50%). Which would still be more than what we'd be able to sell him for because let's be real, Barca is of the worst teams in the world when it comes to selling players.


Zero complaints from me if a reported deal is true. Would have bigger problems if no buy-back option is included but if we'd really keep 50% of future sale would also enable us to bring him back relatively cheaply in future if we decide to do so. But would need to (re)negotiate and probably wouldn't be as cheap as 7m.

Let's see what official loan/transfer will look like though as there are still some conflicting reports.
 

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