Are We The Worst Coached Team Out Of Any Big Club?
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JamDav1982
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Haha aye and you miss some of the most obvious ones and have never ending list of excuses.
Fair differecne from start of season and claims of what squad should achieve with your 'dream' signings of Kound/Lew/Raphinha etc.
But got to move the goalposts for Xavi eh.
Poor Xavi unlucky again today v Espanyol...
Devils
Senior Member
There's your problem.
When you sell clubs assets and spend over 150m on players during a state of financial crisis to be a Tier 1 club but end up in Tier 2, it is a massive failure.
serghei
Senior Member
150m is nothing in current market. You can't build a new team with 150m.
Without that money, Madrid is already near champion again. At least we make it a fight this time around.
JamDav1982
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It was more than 200m plus large contracts for players on a free that were spent last year and that is on top of many good players already there.
Plenty coaches could be doing a lot more with the players already there and anoher 200m on top.
The same folk playing down squad now were the ones giddy with excitement about the squad in the summer.
They left gaping holes in squad... RB and DM prime example and yet have two wingers spent 120m on and cant get in team and dont play in way that suits them.
While what is 'building' for when spend huge money on the books for a 34 year striker?
The reality is the money was being spent to make team competitive now and the team was not all that bad before the window either and would have coasted to top 2 and been a fav to get out CL groups even without levers.
Plenty coaches could be doing a lot more with the players already there and anoher 200m on top.
The same folk playing down squad now were the ones giddy with excitement about the squad in the summer.
They left gaping holes in squad... RB and DM prime example and yet have two wingers spent 120m on and cant get in team and dont play in way that suits them.
While what is 'building' for when spend huge money on the books for a 34 year striker?
The reality is the money was being spent to make team competitive now and the team was not all that bad before the window either and would have coasted to top 2 and been a fav to get out CL groups even without levers.
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serghei
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Jammie, you wanna make an inventory and see how much teams like United, Chelsea cost?
What are you talking about? Barca to get back at that level require about half a billion in players. So another 300m or so looking at current prices being pushed around. Which is only 4 starters and that's only if you hit all of them right on.
Let's see.
Striker to replace Lewa soon.
New AM
New RB
New LW.
Considering 2 of these are forwards and top class forwards cost near 100m a piece these days... you do the math.
I swear I'm arguing with kids here.
The team can only get better via Arsenal way. With a top manager, brains in transfers, and time, 3-4 years to develop some good young players and see how they do. Only we are broke, so it's gonna be tougher.
What are you talking about? Barca to get back at that level require about half a billion in players. So another 300m or so looking at current prices being pushed around. Which is only 4 starters and that's only if you hit all of them right on.
Let's see.
Striker to replace Lewa soon.
New AM
New RB
New LW.
Considering 2 of these are forwards and top class forwards cost near 100m a piece these days... you do the math.
I swear I'm arguing with kids here.
The team can only get better via Arsenal way. With a top manager, brains in transfers, and time, 3-4 years to develop some good young players and see how they do. Only we are broke, so it's gonna be tougher.
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Devils
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150m is nothing in current market. You can't build a new team with 150m.
Without that money, Madrid is already near champion again. At least we make it a fight this time around.
150m on transfers is massive if you are selling off your own clubs assets to fund it.
You clearly don't understand the massive failure that this season is turning out to be and the risk the club took on to make it a success.
Even Xavi said that he thought heading into this season we had a squad that is good enough to win the CL.
JamDav1982
Senior Member
Haha that your latest?
Seghie mental gymnastics... Barca are infact much worse squad wise than Chelsea and Man Utd as spent less.
I couldnt care less if Man Utd and Chelsea wasted even more money.
All about 'poor Xavi' when same folk saying squad is not good enough now were drooling in summer and justifying every signing as if correct decision.
So what is the argument now? Xavi spent money that could never make the squad competitive as were promised by club?
Top stuff.
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serghei
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It's not massive. It's 2-3 players, in a team that needed 6-7 new starters.
Also account for potential flops like Ferran Torres. He was brought as a solution, but needs replacing now. Same as Fati. Was seen as solution but looks like everyone overrated him too soon based on some games in La Liga.
Chelsea won the CL in 2021, right. Check how much they spend since 2021...
Come on, we're wasting time arguing about obvious things.
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JamDav1982
Senior Member
That would be Ferran that Xavi insisted on then plays with touchline wingers.
That is on Xavi if fails.
serghei
Senior Member
JamDav1982
Senior Member
Didn't you think Ferran will be great? You have no shame really...
Yeah I thought Ferran would be a lot better... did say at time if they sign him to play wide it is a waste and not the player he is.. but even outwith that he should be better.
Fact remains.. Xavi brought him and insisted on him and if fails that is Xavis failure.
serghei
Senior Member
Anyway... team will get better. We need to work at it and develop the players we have, try to sign good players that the big teams don't know or are undecided about, which is hard work, but our only course of action.
Slow process, but even in current conditions we'll fight for the league title, which should be appreciated, not brushed aside or ridiculed.
Slow process, but even in current conditions we'll fight for the league title, which should be appreciated, not brushed aside or ridiculed.
Devils
Senior Member
The amount is massive if you are in a financial crisis and need to leverage your own assets to fund it.
Barca spending 150m does not equal PSG/City/Chelsea spending 150m. There is a massive risk gap between the two transactions.
The club literally gambled on short term success with those 150m in transfers.
The fact that Xavi flopped out of the CL group stages, might lose Liga and very well could get eliminated first round of the Europa league is catastrophic no matter which way you spin it.
serghei
Senior Member
Ok, but the alternative was just as shit if not worse. Basically allow Madrid some easy 3-4 La Ligas in a row, with Bundesliga like competition.
Besides, this argument could be made by a particularly rare breed of Barca fan, a type that is scarce around here. The current fans can't even be happy about fighting for the league title, imagine this lot for 3-4 years with the club fighting for 3rd place.
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