11 - Ousmane Dembélé - V1

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MessiCam

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I'm a long time lurker, but I had to sign up to make this statement. The way you so-called Barca fans have been clamouring this young man's every move has been nothing short of disgusting. This guy can't miss a single pass, or mess up a single dribble without being at the mercy of you so-called fans. I watched the game and I saw absolutely nothing wrong with his performance. His dribbling was top notch, he switched the ball to the opposing flanks superbly and was breaking down the opposition lines with his direct drives.

If your biggest problem with an attacking player is that he doesn't press enough, then you clearly have some sick, weird agenda going and you need might want to get your brain evaluated. Stop crying and moaning after each match he plays. He's without a doubt a top 3 youngster in the world, and his injury riddled season doesn't change that fact.

With everything I've read in this thread from so-called Barca fans, I just can't help but think it'd be better for him to snake Barca this summer and just head to PSG. That attack with Neymar-Mbappe-Dembele would be nothing less than potent and it'd be real funny to see the people who chastised his every single move eat their words.

Of course the attacking players have to press. That’s the bare minimum expected of them at Barça because winning the ball back high up the opposition half is an attacking opportunity. I’m not like [MENTION=16942]BBZ8800[/MENTION] that expects the lad to get behind the ball and make tackles like a midfielder or defender but he needs to pull his weight in the opposition half.

I’ve defended him on this board but that lackadaisical display won’t cut it. He is not Messi.

His attitude has been questionable thus far, but don't blame him in this particular instance. He was a 150m player that was lighting up the Bundesliga last season as one of Dortmund's main men. Fast forward to less than a year later and he's being included in a friendly match designed mainly for the B team's player. I don't think he would've ever imagined playing a match like this when he first arrived here. His start to life here has been disastrous and while he maybe a bit culpable in exacerbating his predicament can you really blame the kid for not celebrating with the B team's players after winning a meaningless 'Copa Catalonia' competition? Of course Mina was buzzing, he's fresh of the boat from the Brazilian league with no European experience and he's thankful for every minute he gets, friendly or not. Their situations are not remotely comparable.

He might to be blame for his lifestyle, diet, and dynamic with his teammates, but I'm not going to blame the kid for looking miserable playing with the reserves and the B team just months after being included in the Bundesliga's team of the year and completing a record transfer here.

I'll judge him the next time he plays with the first team, not reading too much into this.
That’s the wrong attitude to have. He should be forcing his way into the coaches plans through good performances. If then the coach doesn’t use him then the coach will have to answer for that.

After a performance like this (It was an extremely lazy showing) I have doubts Valverde will give him a bite at the cherry against Malaga either and he will have only himself to blame.
 
That’s the wrong attitude to have. He should be forcing his way into the coaches plans through good performances.

Funny how that only applies to him. Gomes, Paulinho and Vidal on the other hand get to stink up the place every week and still play.

Not like Dembele hasn't been performing in the few minutes he's gotten (friendlies don't count).
 

Luftstalag14

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Just because he played in Europe before doesn't give him any special status. He started from zero here he needs to earn everything with his efforts and performance.
 
You keep repeating that same shit.

Folk say the same about those players who are criticized all the time.

I don't care what "folk say" about them, fact of the matter is EV still plays them despite them being utter dog shit week in week out.

Dembele on the other hand has to score 20 goals in the 9 minutes of game time he gets or he's a fraud and EV is right to bench him for Paulinho/Gomes/Vidal.
 

JamDav1982

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I don't care what "folk say" about them, fact of the matter is EV still plays them despite them being utter dog shit week in week out.

Dembele on the other hand has to score 20 goals in the 9 minutes of game time he gets or he's a fraud.

So your solution is that he should treat all players like that and not making a mistake?

That is basically what it comes down to and a terrible argument to make for Dembele.
 
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MessiCam

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Funny how that only applies to him. Gomes, Paulinho and Vidal on the other hand get to stink up the place every week and still play.

Well, Valverde likes workhorses (always has since his Bilbao days) and it is he who picks the squads. It’s Dembélé’s responsibility to change that perception.

I don’t like the fact that these workhorses play week in week out any more than you do. Ask everybody around here. [MENTION=16942]BBZ8800[/MENTION] and I have huge arguments about this very matter but I can’t excuse that performance. I’m sorry.
 

Raketa10

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I don't care what "folk say" about them, fact of the matter is EV still plays them despite them being utter dog shit week in week out.

Dembele on the other hand has to score 20 goals in the 9 minutes of game time he gets or he's a fraud and EV is right to bench him for Paulinho/Gomes/Vidal.

Dude come on, stop with that Vidal/Gomes/Paulinho nonsense. Nobody here claimed that they are good, they are shit, that’s not even debatable. I am sure that Demebele will be 10x better player than they are but we are not debating that right now. Attitude that Dembele had today is just unacceptable and I can’t understand why is so hard for you to comprehend that?
 

Tekkers

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This was nothing less than a stellar attacking performance yet people in here are throttling with rage because "he doesn't press hard enough".

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=16lKUJko-eg

Take your agendas elsewhere. No other fan-base criticizes it's young players the way Barca fans do and the rest of the footballing community is just sitting back and laughing. Hopefully this makes more young players hesitant to come here, seeing that the fans will label you a "flop" because you don't press like Mandzukic.
 
That’s the wrong attitude to have. He should be forcing his way into the coaches plans through good performances. If then the coach doesn’t use him then the coach will have to answer for that.

After a performance like this (It was an extremely lazy showing) I have doubts Valverde will give him a bite at the cherry against Malaga either and he will have only himself to blame.

I understand what you're saying completely, but why is it only Dembele that has to be held to to this high standard of performing well to earn a spot in the starting XI? Time and time again we've seen the likes of Paulinho, Gomes and Vidal put in horrific performances week in week out and yet still retain their spot in the starting lineup. Yes, Dembele did cost 105m so we should expect more from him, but at the end of the day he's just another player in the squad. Why is he never given the benefit of the doubt like so many of his other mediocre teammates? Even when he preforms well like in the match against Girona he finds himself on the bench against a 19th placed Las Palmas for Vidal of all players. Not like he was being rested either since he didn't see a minute against Atletico.

The double standard is ridiculous. Dembele must be perfect to earn consecutive starts, yet one of Paulinho, Gomes or Vidal are sure to find themselves in the lineup irrespective of their dire performances. When Dembele plays badly he's benched, but this rule does not seem to apply to other fringe players on our team.

Sure, Dembele's attitude here has been questionable, but Valverde's handling of him has been equally shambolic.
 

xXKonan

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Looking at Valverde's post game thoughts he seemed pretty happy with Dembele and talked about how he started off with pretty good enthusiasm and he hopes it translates into the League matches.

He also mentioned they are pretty happy where he's at physically by the sounds of it.
 

Raketa10

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I understand what you're saying completely, but why is it only Dembele that has to be held to to this high standard of performing well to earn a spot in the starting XI? Time and time again we've seen the likes of Paulinho, Gomes and Vidal put in horrific performances week in week out and yet still retain their spot in the starting lineup. Yes, Dembele did cost 105m so we should expect more from him, but at the end of the day he's just another player in the squad. Why is he never given the benefit of the doubt like so many of his other mediocre teammates? Even when he preforms well like in the match against Girona he finds himself on the bench against a 19th placed Las Palmas for Vidal of all players. Not like he was being rested either since he didn't see a minute against Atletico.

The double standard is ridiculous. Dembele must be perfect to earn consecutive starts, yet one of Paulinho, Gomes or Vidal are sure to find themselves in the lineup irrespective of their dire performances. When Dembele plays badly he's benched, but this rule does not seem to apply to other fringe players on our team.

Sure, Dembele's attitude here has been questionable, but Valverde's handling of him has been equally shambolic.

I agree with you but for me shitty attitude is really big fucking problem for a kid who is 20 years old. There is no respectable manager in the world who will allow this kind of behavior. After today’s shitshow from him I am not sure anymore how is he behaving in the training. What if this is his usal attitude in the training and there is a reason why Valverde gives him a hard time?
 

Cule4life

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He's a young kid. How would you guys behave if you were benched for the Holy trinity of Lords- Paulinho/Gomes/Vidal week in week out without getting a chance to prove yourself?

On the other hand Valverde is a grown man who benched Dembele against Las Palmas after a promising performance against Girona. But he seems to be immune from criticism. Isn't it the managers job to nurture young players? Look at what Pep has done throughout his career.

Mbappe the best young player in the world flopped against Madrid despite playing week in week out. Dembele hasn't even played 2 games in a row for the past few months.

Players do need to have a little bit of ego to drive themselves.
 

henias

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I personally think he did pretty okay, that stellar run was amazing and his passing has improved quite a bit. Liked his switch of plays.
 
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