Luis Enrique

michelco said:

This is all down to LE, not the players. How he cannot fix this is beyond me, its easily spotted. The again he's a bit shit. His track record should've prevented him from coming anywhere near the Barcelona bench.

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We'll see in 3-4 Months whether it was only on Lucho.
We will have a new coach, and majority of these players will stay.
If we'll still suck (which imo, we will, until we change both a coach, players and evolve an outdated system), then we'll know that it was not only about Lucho, but also about the other things like players, our system, motivation, age etc.

This team is on a decline in a CL for the last 6 years (except in a magical 2015').

BBZ8800 said:

We'll see in 3-4 Months whether it was only on Lucho.
We will have a new coach, and majority of these players will stay.
If we'll still suck (which imo, we will, until we change both a coach, players and evolve an outdated system), then we'll know that it was not only about Lucho, but also about the other things like players, our system, motivation, age etc.

This team is on a decline in a CL for the last 6 years (except in a magical 2015').

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I don't think it was lucho alone. Even when we fielded the strongest lineup we have played mediocre many times this season.

Neymessi said:

I don't think it was lucho alone. Even when we fielded the strongest lineup we have played mediocre many times this season.

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Lucho's influence far exceeds selecting lineups alone.

Lucho is 1) a tactical nightmare, 2) incapable of motivating the squad and 3) is clueless when it comes to transfers.

Those a three things that any basic coach should be able to do. Lucho has failed spectacularly on all these fronts this season. Even if you disregard the transfers, if we had a manager who could organize us tactically and motivate the squad we could have done much better this year.We wouldn't have been good enough to win the CL but we wouldn't of have dropped anywhere near as many points as we did in La Liga against small teams.

TornAndFrayed said:

Lucho's influence far exceeds selecting lineups alone.

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yep, case in point would be benitez's short tenure with madrid last season. real fielded their strongest lineup on paper and got smashed 0-4 by us without us even playing that well or having messi.

lucho is honestly the worst coach we've had in a decade or two. atleast with tata, the humility and the willingness to learn from mistakes was there. Lucho since the treble, which he misguidedly believes he had a major role in winning, has been nothing but arrogant, incompetent, and stubborn.

Aleix got the potential and this guy got the ball to banish him, the only real lb for half a season. This kind of incompetent is laughable really

TornAndFrayed said:

Lucho's influence far exceeds selecting lineups alone.

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Obviously. But the biggest blame out of all his shortcomings would be the nonsensical lineups. His tactics aren't on point always but the real disaster is those retarded ass lineups.

Devils said:

Lucho is 1) a tactical nightmare, 2) incapable of motivating the squad and 3) is clueless when it comes to transfers.

Those a three things that any basic coach should be able to do. Lucho has failed spectacularly on all these fronts this season. Even if you disregard the transfers, if we had a manager who could organize us tactically and motivate the squad we could have done much better this year.We wouldn't have been good enough to win the CL but we wouldn't of have dropped anywhere near as many points as we did in La Liga against small teams.

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Just curious but why do you think 2 to be true? We have no way of knowing what he does behind the scenes and during the match he always seems to be shouting, giving instructions and giving his all to motivate them. Behind the scenes there have been reports of him going hard on the team like last season when only 3 or something matches were left in the league, and we ere drawing 0-0 at halftime putting the league in jepordy, he shouted at the players "Wake up we will lose la liga" or something according to sources.

Agree with 1 and 3 though.

Neymessi said:

Just curious but why do you think 2 to be true? We have no way of knowing what he does behind the scenes and during the match he always seems to be shouting, giving instructions and giving his all to motivate them. Behind the scenes there have been reports of him going hard on the team like last season when only 3 or something matches were left in the league, and we ere drawing 0-0 at halftime putting the league in jepordy, he shouted at the players "Wake up we will lose la liga" or something according to sources.

Agree with 1 and 3 though.

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You're right we have no idea what he does behind the scenes. But everything on display during our games indicated he can't motivate our team anymore.

He's active on the sidelines but cannot get a response out of the players. Every single game this season that we have been losing at half-time we've never been able to turn around. This is the complete opposite to Lucho's treble winning season when we would simply hammer opposition in the second-half of a game. Lucho received a lot of praise during that season because of how good we were in second-half performances.

If you look at last week's quarter final distance covered stats, Barca covered 10 km less than most other teams. Even Leicester covered more ground than us. It's a sign we aren't fighting anymore. 10 km is near the average at which a player should run during a game, so if we are running 10 km less than other teams with 11 men on the pitch then it's basically like missing an entire player's worth of ground covering, which is massive.

There will always be guys who fight for the badge of the club like Messi, Iniesta, Busi etc. Then we have guys who have performed for the team in the past that look lost and jaded like Saurez, Raki and Alba. Then there are some of the new guys like Arda, Gomes and Denis who barely will even fight for the team.

Lucho's strongest characteristic in his first two seasons here was his ability to motivate the players, which covered his massive tactical flaws, now that he can't do it anymore, his MASSIVE weaknesses are completely exposed.

Well, to be honest, we don`t really know was it Lucho that motivated players or was it the arrival of Suarez and other new blood. Suarez has that hunger that could`ve woken up Messi to have a monstrous season. But now that`s worn out and Enrique needed to step up. We all see how that went.

I just hope that Shitzue won`t be his successor

Here is a long list of mistakes by Lucho and management. Maybe some decisions (like sending Munir and Sandro out on loan) could still work out in the long run, but in the short term they look bad.
1. Letting Dani Alves move to Juventus because he is "too old"
2. Having no plan to strengthen the right wing
3. Promoting not a single player from La Masia during 3 years, but
4. Sending Munir to Valencia and letting him score against us
5. Sending Sandro to Malaga and letting him score and taking away 3 points from us
6. Buying Gomes and Paco A. despite possible superior homegrown options
7. Letting Neymar run around and wasting opportunities (46 times losing ball against Juventus) without teaching him how to collaborate and behave. Why can he do it in the Brazil national team?
8. Not giving proper rest to MSN before important games (like PSG and Juventus away)
9. Buying players on the decline (Arda Turan) instead of investing in youth
10. Neglecting the practice of set pieces in training, both in defense and in offense

Altomonte said:

Here is a long list of mistakes by Lucho and management. Maybe some decisions (like sending Munir and Sandro out on loan) could still work out in the long run, but in the short term they look bad.
1. Letting Dani Alves move to Juventus because he is "too old"
2. Having no plan to strengthen the right wing
3. Promoting not a single player from La Masia during 3 years, but
4. Sending Munir to Valencia and letting him score against us
5. Sending Sandro to Malaga and letting him score and taking away 3 points from us
6. Buying Gomes and Paco A. despite possible superior homegrown options
7. Letting Neymar run around and wasting opportunities (46 times losing ball against Juventus) without teaching him how to collaborate and behave. Why can he do it in the Brazil national team?
8. Not giving proper rest to MSN before important games (like PSG and Juventus away)
9. Buying players on the decline (Arda Turan) instead of investing in youth
10. Neglecting the practice of set pieces in training, both in defense and in offense

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That list isnt accurate and a lot of it is just guess work and opinion.

Lucho bought poorly and couldnt adapt tactics from the treble year that is about the sum of it.

If we still had both Xavi and Alves in the starting 11 at their CURRENT AGE, we should be a better team then what we are now. This is not even an over exaggeration but rather a reality.

Our squad planning has been so so poor. 100 million spent on Paco, Gomes and Arda. Just think about that for a moment. 100 million big ones on those 3!

I can't think of a worse way to blow 100 million. We could have used that money for a bronze Messi statue. A gigantic one.

you can't possibly pin it all on lucho. when you have MSN + Iniesta + Busi in a team, there should be enough independent skill to offset managerial mistakes. its obviously a combination of lucho, the board, lack of motivation, ageing and over-used players

BarcaOG said:

you can't possibly pin it all on lucho. when you have MSN + Iniesta + Busi in a team, there should be enough independent skill to offset managerial mistakes. its obviously a combination of lucho, the board, lack of motivation, ageing and over-used players

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The fact the team is bad despite MSN is the proof it's all on the lack of a capable coach.

BarcaOG said:

you can't possibly pin it all on lucho. when you have MSN + Iniesta + Busi in a team, there should be enough independent skill to offset managerial mistakes. its obviously a combination of lucho, the board, lack of motivation, ageing and over-used players

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There's like no logic in this statement at all. So MSN and Iniesta should be able to win everything regardless of the manager and the rest of the players on the pitch? What a joke.