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MessiCam
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This is true.
Thiago Alcantara
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JamDav1982
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Febregas was better than Thiago that season though and when Xavi was out it was Thiago who was in for him.
Neeraj
Senior Member
Fabregas was pretty poor. His inflated "assist" stats keep getting thrown around to argue how effective he was. Similar "stats" can be thrown for Ronaldo being the best player in the world. It's just not true.
Thiago should have gotten Fabregas minutes; but Thiago was injured a lot and Fabregas was the chosen one. In reality, I think Fabregas was a complete misfit for us.
Thiago should have gotten Fabregas minutes; but Thiago was injured a lot and Fabregas was the chosen one. In reality, I think Fabregas was a complete misfit for us.
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MessiCam
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As Neeraj says, Fabregas was mediocre at best. But that’s just my opinion... Thiago could have played in positions other than Xavi’s to prop up his playing time.
JamDav1982
Senior Member
Doing shit like that can piss off a squad if the team is starting to be picked on meeting some clause above who deserves to play.
I think Thiago actually played more than can be expected of someone who was that season the 4th best of the 4 CMs but that is part of trying to develop him so fair enough.
FC433
New member
I am against bringing him back and I have expressed that before. He got his chances and decided to go somewhere else. He knew well enough that we needed a CM and instead of pressuring FCB he renewed his contract. Besides, he is almost 28 and injury prone. I would rather go for Miralem Pjanić, Juve is getting E. Can and targeting Savic. We have got Lucas Digne who we could include and also Gomes.
At the age of 20 in the best team in history with the best midfielders.
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At the age of 21
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At the age of 20 in the best team in history with the best midfielders.
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At the age of 21
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George_Costanza
Active member
what's with his "he got his chances"?! You are trying so hard to alter facts here. Thiago signed a new contract in 2011 with Barcelona and this contract has few conditions like playing certain minutes. It was agreed on with the management, so who didn't fulfill the contract? Thiago or Barcelona's management? Also, few months after signing his contract, Barcelona signed Cesc Fabregas and it was said at that time that he was the Xavi heir, this ultimately pushed Thiago behind in the pecking order. release clause fell to 18M. But out of respect for Barcelona, Thiago refused to activate his own release clause of 18m and Bayern had to negotiate with Barcelona and sold for 25m. It was a direction taken by the management not to promote or use youngsters, Thiago thought he would develop better under Pep and it was the right choice at that time. Also, he just turned 27 last month, how he is close to 28yo unless you are using bronze age calendar! Pjanic is 28, not Thiago. And with 1400, he actually played less than Semedo this season lol.
JamDav1982
Senior Member
No one at club failed to 'fulfil his contract'.
Pep asked for Cesc before and after that Thiago renewed.
Thiago never refused to activate the clause at all. Bayern agreed to pay more due to taxes and a bit of goodwill.
More youngsters and players got promoted in and around those years than ever before.
Pretty much all wrong.
DonAndres
Wild Man of Borneo
I wonder if Jamdav is paid to be the board's propoganda puppet or if he does it for free as a hobby.
To suggest that it was not the club's fault for Thiago's departure is mind-numbingly ignorant. He played less than 30 minutes in 11 La Liga games during 12/13, over a 3rd of the games where he was available to play were pretty much garbage time. That 60% clause was easy to fulfill. To put it into perspective, he only had 150 fewer minutes (less than 2 matches) the next season for Bayern Munich under Pep, playing in a TREBLE WINNING midfield that was still in its relative prime. And he also missed over TWICE as many games due to injury in 13/14 as 12/13, so his availability was a lot smaller. So fucking lol to the idea that "he got the minutes he deserved because he wasn't good enough for Barca" when he's suddenly able to play so much more in a midfield that decimated us 7-0 the previous season and won the treble.
This idea is proven even further wrong in hindsight. Barca's La Masia exodus over the past 3 years is directly relatable to the Thiago incident. Several youngsters who didn't believe they would get the chances to make it at the top level at Barcelona. All of these players felt disenfranchised by the club and felt that La Masia/player development has been ignored. Unless you want to believe that suddenly an entire generation of La Masia youth up and became greedy, money-chasing cunts. There is a clear pattern to the departures and it has little to nothing to do with money. The players who left themselves have said as much (like Grimaldo), and Barca legends have commented on the distrust in La Masia as well.
Simply ridiculous to think the club shoulders no blame in the Thiago incident. It's entirely our own wrongdoing. Thiago, like many recent youngsters to come out of the academy, did not feel like he had a real spot in the team and that his development wasn't prioritized by Tito or the board. He saw that his clause was dropping and NO ONE at the club gave any fucks to stop him or let him know that his time would come and he would get more time to prove himself. Then Pep said that Thiago was "the only player he wanted to buy" and guaranteed him an important role, and he saw that as an opportunity to actually feel needed and significant. The difference in treatment is obvious, and that's why he left. Could've gone to United for more money, but Pep offered him the best chance to develop and that's what he took.
To suggest that it was not the club's fault for Thiago's departure is mind-numbingly ignorant. He played less than 30 minutes in 11 La Liga games during 12/13, over a 3rd of the games where he was available to play were pretty much garbage time. That 60% clause was easy to fulfill. To put it into perspective, he only had 150 fewer minutes (less than 2 matches) the next season for Bayern Munich under Pep, playing in a TREBLE WINNING midfield that was still in its relative prime. And he also missed over TWICE as many games due to injury in 13/14 as 12/13, so his availability was a lot smaller. So fucking lol to the idea that "he got the minutes he deserved because he wasn't good enough for Barca" when he's suddenly able to play so much more in a midfield that decimated us 7-0 the previous season and won the treble.
This idea is proven even further wrong in hindsight. Barca's La Masia exodus over the past 3 years is directly relatable to the Thiago incident. Several youngsters who didn't believe they would get the chances to make it at the top level at Barcelona. All of these players felt disenfranchised by the club and felt that La Masia/player development has been ignored. Unless you want to believe that suddenly an entire generation of La Masia youth up and became greedy, money-chasing cunts. There is a clear pattern to the departures and it has little to nothing to do with money. The players who left themselves have said as much (like Grimaldo), and Barca legends have commented on the distrust in La Masia as well.
Simply ridiculous to think the club shoulders no blame in the Thiago incident. It's entirely our own wrongdoing. Thiago, like many recent youngsters to come out of the academy, did not feel like he had a real spot in the team and that his development wasn't prioritized by Tito or the board. He saw that his clause was dropping and NO ONE at the club gave any fucks to stop him or let him know that his time would come and he would get more time to prove himself. Then Pep said that Thiago was "the only player he wanted to buy" and guaranteed him an important role, and he saw that as an opportunity to actually feel needed and significant. The difference in treatment is obvious, and that's why he left. Could've gone to United for more money, but Pep offered him the best chance to develop and that's what he took.
JamDav1982
Senior Member
Aye board pay me.
Great shout.
Were they paying me a few years ago when you claimed Rafinha and Rakitic were the future world class midfield and I disagreed and was pissed off never got Kroos?
Or did they pay me when you said Coutinho would make Barca a laughing stock and I disagreed?
Thiago was never going to be a starter at Barca any time soon and he knew that. As if he was going to wait for Xavi/Iniesta to retire.
What about when Neymar was nothing but a show off with a hair cut?
Or when you told me Robben is over rated?
Fucking lol.
Thiago made the right choice for himself in my opinion.
Lovely bit of strawman quoting something that was never said.
Great stuff from the deleter again.
Great shout.
Were they paying me a few years ago when you claimed Rafinha and Rakitic were the future world class midfield and I disagreed and was pissed off never got Kroos?
Or did they pay me when you said Coutinho would make Barca a laughing stock and I disagreed?
Thiago was never going to be a starter at Barca any time soon and he knew that. As if he was going to wait for Xavi/Iniesta to retire.
What about when Neymar was nothing but a show off with a hair cut?
Or when you told me Robben is over rated?
Fucking lol.
Thiago made the right choice for himself in my opinion.
Lovely bit of strawman quoting something that was never said.
Great stuff from the deleter again.
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You literally replied to nothing the man said & did a strawman then comment about strawman.
JamDav1982
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Trafalgar
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40M is a very good price for a spanish international even if he's injury prone.
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