At least Valverde didnt set a new goal drought record and has actually won things in his career, just saying.
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At least Valverde didnt set a new goal drought record and has actually won things in his career, just saying.
serghei
Senior Member
Glad you've come back to reality. There's no such thing as a transition season at Madrid. You are shit you get fired. Simple as that. You may not win big titles in your first season, but you still need to show there some cohesion happening. Which is not with Madrid under Lopetegui.
El Gato
Villarato!
Reality would have been much different if our strikers pulled their finger out and didn't count on a LB to score. Manager is not even remotely at fault for this shitshow, but he must go. Can't replace 3-5 players at once like you can with a manager.
He's literally only going to get sacked because he's set one of the worst records in the history books. No other reason. And it's not even his fault TBH
Stoichkov1
New member
Not disputing your claim but the last year it was more or less the same in the league even with Ronaldo.
Perhaps Perez should take a look at himself in the mirror after sacking Lope, since 16/17, we lost James, Morata and Ronaldo(how many goals did these 3 have? 80?) and didnt replace them with anyone(Mariano does not count).
serghei
Senior Member
Imo he is. Managers can't hide behind the complacency of the players. It's part of their job description to make sure players realise they need to work hard for wins, and make the right calls if they don't. Wins ain't gonna come by themselves no matter what your name is. Guess what? Barca and Madrid can get schooled by Leganes and Levante if they have an embarrassing attitude. But their managers are surely among the most responsible for this.\
Some managers just don't win players over to a degree that they overcome their natural tendency to slack off. Some do.
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Sterlingfan2000
Active member
The thing is when u Have Ronaldo on ur team, it's easier to score because they always will be 2 People on him. Same goes for Messi, have u ever see Messi not marked by less then 2
El Gato
Villarato!
Nope. Firing is nothing to do with any of it. What leaves the sourest of tastes is the fact that his team set the worst scoring record in club history. If it wasn't the case he'd remain longer. Now? Very uncertain he will continue. Can't trust a guy who doesn't care about historical ups and downs.
Valverde is 15x different. He's nearly given you an invincible season. Basically the opposite. At least in Madrid terms. And they're the terms Barto board operates in.
ThwiX
Best midfielder around
I see Barca fans far more frustrated than RM fans these days. Valverde is a coward and is putting fans to sleep with his boring style of play. All that while being a piece of shit to new players like Malcom for no reason. Biggest difference is still that we are stuck with this fraud for the rest of the season, you can still win something big this season depending on who comes in as your new coach.
serghei
Senior Member
Come on. Valverde had the luck of having every single worthy domestic opponent crumble to pieces and basically lay off a red carpet in front of him, and he simply took the chance like a pro, credit where it's due. But in the one competition where he had real hard on pressure he crumbled like an amateur against a team that is not even half as good as Barcelona.
Valverde had a first season with a good half and a really bad half, and the good half seems to be lost at the moment.
Let's tell it how it is.
El Gato
Villarato!
Doesn't matter. Not what goes on record. What goes on record is the 1 loss in the entire year. 3 or 4 losses total. That's the same number as Lopetegui has amassed in a month.
Trust me, Barto board are Galactico board, this is what they look at.
Maybe we should give Zidane a chance, club legend who might be looking to prove himself at the highest level of coaching.
serghei
Senior Member
My claim is that both are decent managers but that's it and both Barca and Madrid have squads that need better managers. Don't see how that is contradicted by what you say here.
I'm the last one to normally agree with such a claim, but in La Liga at least, based on recent events and last season, this is pretty much true.
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